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stephanie · April 29, 2009, 01:08:04 PM

can anyone out there actually get this stuff to do anything useful? and what's the secret? (if you're willing to share it )

sparrow · April 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM

Not got any, sorry.....

garishglobes · April 29, 2009, 01:21:42 PM

Its ages since I used it, but it is nice glass. How you treat it depends on whether you have striking or reducing glass, but I used to find the reducing ones reduced easily. The strikers were a bit harder, and I think the other thing that may help with the striking ones might be to heat till soupy and kind-of clear, cool and then give a quick reduce before warming to strike. But I could be very wrong!

Lush! · April 29, 2009, 01:37:32 PM

I got Jupiter and Golden Emerald ... tips will be VERY gratefully received!

Strikers - heat, cool, reduce then strike, huh?

garishglobes · April 29, 2009, 01:53:06 PM

Don't quote me!!!!
I've just got a feeling there are glasses which do need this - poss. Mountain Honey and Juno being examples?

Lush! · April 29, 2009, 01:54:00 PM

I didn't quote you Emma, I think you call it paraphrasing

Chameleon · April 29, 2009, 02:01:55 PM

i swore at mine for ages but then worked out ... Dont work it like DH !! you do not need to cool it to reduce it, just make the bead the shape you want then turn the oxy down and reduce it without cooling first

edited to say this is for the reduction glasses not the striking ones !! Taxco certainly works this way, cant remember the others i have but will check the labels

HTH

garishglobes · April 29, 2009, 02:58:42 PM

QuoteI think you call it paraphrasing

...or putting in a better way!

Hamilton Taylor · April 29, 2009, 03:51:43 PM

...Golden Emerald should reduce as easily as Taxco, but Jupiter needs to be cooked really hot, and cooled until there is no glow on it, before striking. Then, strike very, very gingerly, it colours up dead quick, and overstrikes ( back to almost rod colour) v. easily. So, if you haven't struck it enough - it's green. Oh, and, if you strike it too much - it's green.
Dalai Lama & Tibet - heat, cool, reduce a bit, strike. Again, it's easy to overstrike them, leaving you with the impression that you haven't accomplished anything....

Sean

Lush! · April 29, 2009, 03:59:19 PM

Sean, the bit where you say "strike very gingerly" - do you just mean "heat"?

Hamilton Taylor · April 29, 2009, 04:23:27 PM

No, I mean heat, very carefully, in small doses. Flash the bead in the very back of the flame, at the feathery bit, in-and out, check, in-and-out, check, etc. Some of these glasses really don't need much more heat, once you've got the dark 'pre-strike' phase, if you see what I mean.

Sean

Lush! · April 29, 2009, 04:41:40 PM

Thanks Sean, lovely explanation, I'm off ...........

dinah46 · April 29, 2009, 05:35:08 PM

Well I think I tried all those methods and still get grey/green (read sludge) from Jupiter

I did get some colour from dalai lama and I'm going to try that again next time I get to the torch but Jupiter has gone back in the box

flowerjasper · April 29, 2009, 10:28:10 PM

i have managed to get poo from an originally clear rod of zeus

Hamilton Taylor · April 30, 2009, 08:09:32 AM

Quote from: dinah46 on April 29, 2009, 05:35:08 PM
Well I think I tried all those methods and still get grey/green (read sludge) from Jupiter

I did get some colour from dalai lama and I'm going to try that again next time I get to the torch but Jupiter has gone back in the box

Try heating the Jupiter to WhiteHotDrippy on the rod, then cooling a little, and applying to the bead. Then, cool and strike as usual. The strike is very sensitive, and easy to overdo.

Sean

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