Red trouble - Reichenbach strawberry all dark grey!

Started by Mand, January 17, 2011, 09:34:02 AM

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Mand

HI

What am i doing wrong?  I used to be quite good at getting CIM Sangria to turn a lovely berry red.  I got  some Reichenbach Strawberry before Xmas and all it does is turn a dark grey - even when it comes out of the kiln.  Pants!  What am I doing wrong?  It's not the gas as I've got a new cannister and it's exactly the same results as before I changed it and then it wasn't even empty.

Mand

Trudi

Grey sounds odd, but it could be to do with your oxy/propane mix.

I've had Sangria go murky before because of this - made beads the next day and they were fine.

Mand

What number should I  have the oxycon at?  I've been using it at between 4 and 5 bars - although closer to 5 usually?

Trudi

It just needs to be a good mix witht the propane, but you could try working it a little cooler between 3 and 4.

Redhotsal

As Trudi says - work it as cool as you can with a bit more oxygen than normal. It does sound as if it has reduced - wonder if you can etch the top layer of murk off with a few seconds of etch like you can with the dark turquoise? It could also possibly be the glass itself.

Mand

Off to the shed to give it  ago at a cooler temp... :P


JKC

That has happened to me with that glass in the past, some grey, some worked fine, I think I was overheating.  Never tried the etching, might if I can find the old beads.

Yellow friend

I think a lot of the reds are prone to discolouration (pos their chemical content?) if worked too hot or with too much propane - took me a while to get this in my head when using rubino oro in particular.  I now always shift a bit further away from the torch head when using reds.

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Mand

OK.  Put the Reichenbach strawb. bead into etching solution for a couple of hours.  Have managed to scrub most of the residue of grey off with a scourer, but the glass underneath is scorched-looking in places.  It looks quite  passable in a "distressed" kind of way! :-\ ::)

I got carried away playing with bluestone ribbon and then my new Kalypso rods  ::) so I ran out of time to test more Strawberry in making beads today.  I turned the oxy down to 3-4 bars, but my 3 attempts at  Kalypso encased "a la Pegasus tutorial" beads are mainly beigish with a few streaks of pink? What does this mean? Izzit the torch or am I  not heating the glass right??  I feel like I'm a frikkin newbie all over again even though I've been at this malarky 3 years +.  (No offence to newbies intended, I'm just very frustrated!)  I don't think I'll ever get the hang of more than basic effetre glass tbh.  :(

Carol

Quote from: Mand on January 17, 2011, 07:02:23 PM
my 3 attempts at  Kalypso encased "a la Pegasus tutorial" beads are mainly beigish with a few streaks of pink? What does this mean? Izzit the torch or am I  not heating the glass right??  I feel like I'm a frikkin newbie all over again even though I've been at this malarky 3 years +. 

I feel your pain - I'm just glad I only bought a few rods of the stuff......(and I've been at this malarkey 4 years plus  :-[)
Carol

JKC

Mind elsewhere, all of my beads for the whole week rhyme with rap. :-[   Sometimes, AAAAArgh, feels like you go backwards.