reichenbach silver brown , i need help!

[flowerjasper]

got some of the above yesterday at the essex bead fair,
all i get is poo!
do i strike or reduce it?
i am on a hot head, does it need to be super heated? if it does i will put it with the khoas till the big girls torch is set up!
i have tried pulling stringer and heating till clear, but still yuck!
any particular base helps it pop?

i also got a mixed cim batch from martin, including blackcurrant which is a VERY dark purple, anyone used tuxedo or charcoal?
lovely to see the firebyrds , dizzy di, pat and angela there yesterday,
sandy

[Kaz]

Hm - Tuxedo is black and Charcoal looks like black but isn't Not sure why Kathy has developed these ahead of other colours when Hades already existed. But the Tuxedo is nice quality and no burning. I used it today with silver foil so will see tomorrow! I also made one charcoal bead - it definitely looked black when it went into the kiln!
Kazx

[Isabelle]

Silver brown likes to be reduced - so you should be fine on a HH. It doesn't have to be super hot - but it's not as silver-rich as the DH glasses, so you don't get such a pronounced effect.

[flowerjasper]

thats good news it likes to be reduced,
will try tomorrow,
thanks x

[sparrow]

Sandy, I can only repeat advice I got from the lady in Germany who sold me silver brown long before it was available in England. I mainly got poo on a stick too, so I might have been doing it wrong all along. I was told to work it like a normal glass (i.e. in  neutral flame), take it out, then re-introduce it at the very back of the flame. The thing that turned it into poo was the kiln - I had to get it in at the very, very end of the cycle, it would soak to poo in literally 20 minutes or so, so I'd make the last bead of the day, then move the kiln up to anneal as quickly as possible......hope that helps!

Oh, and I was told to use it over Effetre Amethyst or another silver rich colour for best effect - I used it over Terranova the only batch I got some good results - expensive mistakes!!

[afina]

Hi!
I might add a few hint here. Silverbrown is a striker-reducer. When you first apply it, it gets almost transparent. Let it cool slightly and then re-introduce it at the back of the flame as Sabine wrote - like with normal transparent red the brown colour will come back slowly. This is your real starting point. Once it is dark brown, you can start to reduce it. Cover the holes of your hothead so that the flame turns slightly turquoise and quickly bathe the bead in this flame - rather at the end of the flame again. Take it out and have a look: Does it shimmer already? If yes, then stop. If not, repeat.
As Sabine said, it tends to change colour in the kiln, so don't overdo the reducing here, else you'll get this nice poo-colour.
Try it over black and encase it - beautiful blues! Try it over ivory and encase - different colours will appear.
If you always have problems with it in the kiln, reduce the temperature in your schedule to 505 °C.
Hope this helps!

[Trudi]

Hi Sandy!!

I thought you'd got a dual fuel torch (I must have made that up in my head!) - I've only used silver brown once - I made a base of topaz and mixed in the silver brown - didn't do anything special at all and this is what I got



And it was great to see you again!

Trudi

[flowerjasper]

i have a bigs girls torch trudi, its not set up yet!
thanks for the advice will try again,
s x