Vermiculite with slow cooker?

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Im a glassy babe

Does anyone use this method.

I'm finding that some of my beads crack  ??? even though I leave them in the vermiculite for hours.  I'm thinking about buying a cheap slow cooker that has a keep warm function and then when I've finished beading turning it off to slow the cooling down.  Can anyone advise me on this please?

I don't have enough time to do an awful lot of beads in one go, or I'd anneal as I went.

Heeellllllppppp!

Thanks  ;D

Shirley

I just use my vermiculite in a casserole dish, don't worry about heating it up, and I rarely get cracked beads. I do make sure that I remove them from the flame very slowly, though. I do watch the thickness of the bead too.
Val Cox Frit - Thai and Bali Silver 

Katiequiggle

It depends on how big your beads are  but I have great success with a £7 slow cooker from Asda which I've taken the ceramic dish out of and put the V directly into the metal area.  I rarely have broken beads except small flat ones occasionally and very big flat ones though I get more whole ones than broken ones.  Good luck,  I leave mine on full heat the whole time I'm working and then switch it off at the end but I don't take the beads out till they are completely cold.

Its horrible when you've made a super bead and then it breaks isn't it.

Im a glassy babe

Yes it is frustrating.Mostly been having trouble with lentils.  Bought a press from Martin at the Hatfield Bead Fair, and made some beads I'm really chuffed with only to find one has cracked.  Also had one crack a day or so after I made it.  Not fully crack, but a hairline crack down the middle. ???  Not sure why this would happen either?

Thanks for the help!  ;D

Kaz

I nearly always work with vermiculite and a slow cooker on low. The key is flame annealing the bead properly before putting into the vermic. Gradually work your way up the flame and bathe slowly in the top part bring out, count to 5 quickly and bury deep in vermic.
Kaz
She's made of real glass. She got real real emotion. But my heart laughs I have that same sweet devotion!

Pandanimal

I have a slowcooker too. It seems to work a treat. I hardly ever get cracked beads. But bigger ones seem to be the most likely to go if any do. by bigger I mean 30mm or so in size, The ones I have spent more time on and am most pleased with normaly. I guess the extra working has built up more internal stresses in the glass.

Amber

I don't use a slow cooker with mine and I rarely get cracked beads - when I do, it's usually the big flat ones. I'm just very careful about flame annealing before I pop the bead in the vermiculite.

Carol

Don't use it so much now as I tend to use the "anneal as you go" method, but I lost very few beads to cracking when I used the vermiculite in the slo cooker method. (didn't help the fuglies though :P) Check the second hand shops, you might pick one up for a couple of quid if you're lucky :)
Carol

Shirley

I don't even try to make lentils unless I can put them straight into the kiln
Val Cox Frit - Thai and Bali Silver 

Dizzy Di

Hi,
when using vermiculite, I use a slow cooker bought from asda for £6 last summer and just leave it on low and switch off and leave beads until next morning.  I do however flame anneal every bead, I make as standard.  If I try to hurry and take beads out earlier than that I get breakages,
Hope that helps. ;D

Dianne  ;)

grandmabead

I've lost a few doozies of a bead but i now have an electric fondue set for my vermiculite....cheese is too fattening so i am saving my bum from expansion LOL.
Why do peolple buy fondue sets anyway??????

mad bunny

QuoteI use a slow cooker bought from asda for £6 last summer and just leave it on low and switch off and leave beads until next morning.  I do however flame anneal every bead, I make as standard.  If I try to hurry and take beads out earlier than that I get breakages,

This is the same for me.  I was so proud of one bead I made out of an encased twisty, got all excited took it out too early to show DH. Five mins later I heard to tell tale crack as it sat proudly by my side.  :'(  I still have it, couldn't bear to throw it away.  ::)

I have had more success with slow cooker and then I batch anneal when I have enough to fill the kiln.  ;D
Practice and Patience really does pay off!  Beads actually looking good  Yippee  :o

Im a glassy babe

Thanks girlies!  :D Off to ASDA tomorrow.  ;D  Think I'll give it a try, I really don't have enough to anneal as I go, so will try slower flame annealing and putting in slow cooker and see how it goes.

;D

aoturoa

I third the flame annealing. I use a HH, and after cooling the bead in the end of the flame, I use my oven glove and wrap it around the holes to get a propane-heavy flame. I keep the bead in there until the glow has really gone, then shove it in the verminculite

That's in a round terracotta pot lined with ali foil.

It's probably not as error-free as a kiln, but I've not had any breakages since my first batch.

Mary

Can I chip in with a wee comment? Make sure your mandrel doesn't touch the pot if it's metal, either the point or the long end of the mandrel. The metal will conduct the heat away from the bead more quickly and shock it. Not obvious, but it does make a difference.