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Removing beads from mandrel

2010-09-24T12:08:12Z

Garishglobes: New page: Q: I have made beads, with bead release on the mandrel, but now that they have cooled I can't remove them. A: Soak in water, grip the rod with pliers close to the bead and gently twist th...

Q: I have made beads, with bead release on the mandrel, but now that they have cooled I can't remove them.

A: Soak in water, grip the rod with pliers close to the bead and gently twist the bead.

Try putting them in the freezer for a short while, or soaking in Coke or Cillit Bang - this can help.

Lampworking

2010-09-24T12:04:12Z

Garishglobes: /* Beginners Lampworking Q&A */

Lampworking is the process of using a gas [[torch]] or 'lamp' to make objects out of [[glass]].

==How is it done==
Glass rods are heated to melting point and wound onto [[mandrels]] that have been dipped into [[bead release]]. There is also a subcategory of lampworking that is referred to as "[[off mandrel]]". Sculptural glass pieces and [[marbles]] can be made in this way.
Glass is heated using [[propane]] and a [[torch]]. The most common propane only [[torch]] used in lampwork is a [[Hot Head]] torch. A [[dual fuel torch]] can also be used to melt glass which uses [[propane]] and [[oxygen]] supplied either from a tank or by an [[oxycon]].

==Beginners Lampworking Q&A==

[[Poking hot glass]]

[[Removing beads from mandrel]]

Lampworking

2010-09-24T12:03:56Z

Garishglobes: /* Beginners Lampworking Q&A */

Amber/purple

2010-09-23T12:04:38Z

Garishglobes: New page: The term 'amber/purple' generally refers to glass that absorbs amber light and reflects purples - in a dull room, the glass will appear amber coloured, but with good light, or in bright su...

The term 'amber/purple' generally refers to glass that absorbs amber light and reflects purples - in a dull room, the glass will appear amber coloured, but with good light, or in bright sunlight, a range of colours will be reflected, in particular blues and purples.

Coefficient of Expansion

2010-09-23T11:59:13Z

Garishglobes: New page: COE, or Coefficient of Expansion, describes by how much a material will expand per degree of temperature increase. Different types of glass have different COE's. Glass, like many material...

COE, or Coefficient of Expansion, describes by how much a material will expand per degree of temperature increase. Different types of glass have different COE's.

Glass, like many materials, expands as it gets hotter and contracts as it cools. The Coefficient of Expansion for glass is a way of describing the degree of expansion. When two rods of glass are melted together, it is important that their COE is the same so that they are expanding and contracting at the same rate. If you attempt to melt two rods with different COE's together, they will contract at different rates as they cool, producing stress within the piece you have made which could lead to breakage.

Borosilicate Glass

2010-09-23T11:52:31Z

Garishglobes: New page: Borosilicate glass, often just referred to as 'boro' or 'hard glass', has a COE of 33. This glass needs a higher temperature to melt and is generallly stiffer when molten than glass wi...

Borosilicate glass, often just referred to as 'boro' or 'hard glass', has a [[COE]] of 33. This glass needs a higher temperature to melt and is generallly stiffer when molten than glass with a higher [[COE]]. Many borosilicate glass colours are reactive and can change dramatically depending on [[flame atmosphere]]. Some borosilicate colours, for example, [[amber/purple]] colours, can also change depending on light source.

Glass Alchemy

2010-09-23T11:26:08Z

Garishglobes:

Glass Alchemy manufacture a wide range of borosilicate glass colour rods as well as frit in a variety of grades and coloured tubing.

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.glassalchemy.com/ manufacturer's website].

Northstar 33

2010-09-23T11:25:52Z

Garishglobes:

Northstar manufacture a wide range of borosilicate glass colours as well as frit in a variety of grades.

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.northstarglass.com/ manufacturer's website].

Borostix

2010-09-23T11:25:28Z

Garishglobes: New page: Borostix are a range of opaque non-reactive borosilicate colours.

Borostix are a range of opaque non-reactive borosilicate colours.

Momka

2010-09-23T11:24:28Z

Garishglobes: New page: Momka's glass makes a range of borosilicate glass coloured rods. Frit is also available from the distributor listed on the [http://www.momkasglass.com/ manufacturer's website]. Working ti...

Momka's glass makes a range of borosilicate glass coloured rods. Frit is also available from the distributor listed on the [http://www.momkasglass.com/ manufacturer's website].

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.momkasglass.com/ manufacturer's website].

Glass Alchemy

2010-09-23T11:22:13Z

Garishglobes: New page: Glass Alchemy manufacture a wide range of boroslicate glass colour rods as well as frit in a variety of grades and coloured tubing. Working tips and information on the range of colours of...

Glass Alchemy manufacture a wide range of boroslicate glass colour rods as well as frit in a variety of grades and coloured tubing.

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.glassalchemy.com/ manufacturer's website].

Northstar 33

2010-09-23T11:20:57Z

Garishglobes: New page: Northstar manufacture a wide range of boroslicate glass colours as well as frit in a variety of grades. Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [h...

Northstar manufacture a wide range of boroslicate glass colours as well as frit in a variety of grades.

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.northstarglass.com/ manufacturer's website].

TAG 33

2010-09-23T11:15:04Z

Garishglobes:

TAG 33 is made by Trautman Art Glass who manufacture a range of colours as well as a small range of frit.

Working tips and information on the range of colours offered can be found on the [http://www.taglass.com/ manufacturer's website].

TAG 33

2010-09-23T11:11:55Z

Garishglobes: New page: TAG 33 is made by [Trautman Art Glass] who manufacture a range of colours as well as a small range of frit.

TAG 33 is made by [Trautman Art Glass] who manufacture a range of colours as well as a small range of frit.

Glass

2010-09-23T11:08:31Z

Garishglobes: /* Which glass should I use to make beads from? */

==Which glass should I use to make beads from?==

*[[Plowden and Thompson]] (English COE 100)
*[[Effetre]] (Italian COE 104)
*[[Bullseye]] (American COE 90)
*[[Satake]] (Japanese COE 120)
*[[Reichenbach]] (German COE 104)
*[[Laucha]] (German)
*[[CiM]] (American COE 104)
*[[Northstar]] (American COE 104)
*[[Double Helix]] (American COE 104)
*[[Vetrofond]] (Italian COE 104)
*[[Kugler]] (German COE 104 and 90)
*[[TAG 104]] (American COE 104)

===[[Borosilicate Glass]]===

*[[TAG 33]] (American)
*[[Northstar 33]] (American)
*[[Glass Alchemy]] (American)
*[[Momka]] (American)
*[[Borostix]] (American)

===Using sheet art glass===

===Scrap glass from bottles etc.===

== Further information ==
See http://www.glass-beads.co.uk/Flame/June06/WhichGlass.html for more information

Lampworking

2010-09-23T10:54:35Z

Garishglobes:

Lampworking

2010-09-23T10:54:21Z

Garishglobes: /* How is it done */

Lampworking

2010-09-23T10:53:38Z

Garishglobes: /* How is it done */

Lampworking is the process of using a gas [[torch]] or 'lamp' to make objects out of [[glass]].

==How is it done==
Glass rods are heated to melting point and wound onto [[mandrels]] that have been dipped into [[bead release]]. There is also a subcategory of lampworking that is referred to as "[[off mandrel]]". Sculptural glass pieces and [[marbles]] can be made in this way.
Glass is heated using [[propane]] and a [[torch]]. The most common propane only [[torch]] used in lampwork is a [[Hot Head]] torch. A [[dual fuel torch]] can also be used to melt glass which uses [[propane]] and [[oxygen]] supplied either from a tank or by an [[oxycon]].

== '''
Beginners Lampworking Q&A''' ==

[[Poking hot glass]]

Poking hot glass

2010-09-23T09:18:07Z

Garishglobes: New page: Q - "I have a tungsten pick and also a rake, but both tools get stuck in the glass" A - If your tools are hot they will stick to the glass. Try to keep your tools out of the flame. If you...

Q - "I have a tungsten pick and also a rake, but both tools get stuck in the glass"

A - If your tools are hot they will stick to the glass. Try to keep your tools out of the flame. If your tool does get stuck in the glass, wait a few seconds - the metal will cool quicker than the glass and will come free. Hot glass won't stick to cold tools.

Keep a little pot of water on your workbench to cool tools between uses.

Lampworking

2010-09-23T09:13:57Z

Garishglobes: /* How is it done */

Lampworking is the process of using a gas [[torch]] or 'lamp' to make objects out of [[glass]].

==How is it done==
Glass rods are heated to melting point and wound onto [[mandrels]] that have been dipped into [[bead release]]. There is also a subcategory of lampworking that is referred to as "[[off mandrel]]". Sculptural glass pieces and [[marbles]] can be made in this way.
Glass is heated using [[propane]] and a [[torch]]. The most common propane only [[torch]] used in lampwork is a [[Hot Head]] torch. A [[dual fuel torch]] can also be used to melt glass which uses [[propane]] and [[oxygen]] supplied either from a tank or by an [[oxycon]].

'''
Beginners Lampworking Q&A'''

[[Poking hot glass]]

Reichenbach

2008-12-02T13:55:07Z

Garishglobes:

Reichenbach produce a limited range of colours in [[CoE]] 104. The opaque colours tend towards high colour saturation and so a little goes a long way. Dots made with the [[opaque]] Reichenbach 104 [[glass]]es on a base bead of a very soft [[opaque]] colour (for example [[Effetre]] White) have a "bleed" effect rather than a crisp edge when melted down.
Reichenbach also produce a range of [[CoE]]92 glass rods and [[frit]]s, many of which are either [[reactive]] or [[reducing]] colours.


[[Category:Types of Glass]]

Reichenbach

2008-12-02T13:54:15Z

Garishglobes:

Reichenbach produce a limited range of colours in [[CoE]] 104. The opaque colours tend towards high colour saturation and so a little goes a long way. Dots made with the [[opaque]] Reichenbach 104 [[glass]]es on a base bead of a very soft [[opaque]] colour (for example [[Effetre]] White) have a "bleed" effect rather than a crisp edge when melted down.
Reichenbach also produce a range of [[CoE]]92 glass rods and frits, many of which are either [[reactive]] or [[reducing]] colours.


[[Category:Types of Glass]]

Double Helix

2008-11-16T10:27:02Z

Garishglobes:

Double Helix, based in the US, produce a range of silver rich glass rods and [[frit]] that are CoE 104.

Precision 104

2008-11-16T10:25:57Z

Garishglobes: New page: A range of silver-rich C0E104 rods for beadmaking produced by Northstar glassworks in the US.

A range of silver-rich C0E104 rods for [[beadmaking]] produced by [[Northstar]] glassworks in the US.

Kugler

2008-11-16T10:22:32Z

Garishglobes: New page: Kugler are a German Company producing three separate ranges of glass for glassworking. Kugler Colors rods are CoE 93 while the Beadmaking 104 range is CoE 104. Kugler manufactured the no-l...

Kugler are a German Company producing three separate ranges of glass for glassworking. Kugler Colors rods are CoE 93 while the Beadmaking 104 range is CoE 104. Kugler manufactured the no-longer produced ASK 104 rods for beadmaking.

Glass

2008-11-16T10:17:13Z

Garishglobes: /* Which glass should I use to make beads from? */

==Which glass should I use to make beads from?==

*[[Plowden and Thompson]] (English)
*[[Effetre]] (Italian)
*[[Bullseye]] (American)
*[[Satake]] (Japanese)
*[[Reichenbach]] (German)
*[[ASK]]
*[[Laucha]] (German)
*[[CiM]]
*[[Northstar]] (American)
*[[Double Helix]] (American)
*[[Vetrofond]] (Italian)
*[[Kugler]] (German)
===Other glass rod manufacturers===

===Using sheet art glass===

===Scrap glass from bottles etc.===

== Further information ==
See http://www.glass-beads.co.uk/Flame/June06/WhichGlass.html for more information

Double Helix

2008-11-16T10:15:14Z

Garishglobes: New page: Double Helix, based in the US, produce a range of silver rich glass rods and frit that are CoE 104.

Double Helix, based in the US, produce a range of silver rich glass rods and frit that are CoE 104.

Sandpit

2008-11-12T11:45:10Z

Garishglobes: /* YES!!! I too have edited the wiki and am a wiki virgin no longer!! */

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*Garish Globes - Emma (but it took some doing!)

[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]

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You will also want to link to other pages... this is done by surrounding the text to link with 2 sets of square braces like this...

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So if I want to add a link to [[Cleaning Beads]] I just add the brackets around it... it's that simple.

== Kevin's Test ==

I hope this picture works :D

[[Image:charmbracelet.jpg|center]]

== Questions ==

Dickie, why didn't we get a wiki with WYSIWYG? :o)

Because it wouldn't have been a Wiki!! Wikis Use Wikitext !!
To be honest WYSIWYG is overrated, as it generally screws things up with no easy way to fix it, and you forever have to go back and edit the html to correct things. Wikitext is not ''that'' difficult to learn, and once you get the hang of it think how much use you will be to the '''''Wikis at large'''''...
I also thought that using the same software that runs Wikipedia would be
* More secure.
* More stable.
* Scalable.
* Easier for people to use who know about Wikis
* Not to difficult to learn
* Not something new to learn
* A known quantity.
It just seemed to make sense, sorry

Awww, okay then :o) I like the idea of 'building capacity' for the wikis at large, *gg*

[[Category:Testing]]

Sandpit

2008-11-12T11:44:40Z

Garishglobes: /* Wiki Editing Game!!! Log in (FHF username & p'word), click 'Edit' and add your name to the bottom of the list! */

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[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]

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(use code like this <tt><nowiki>[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]</nowiki></tt>

It is also possible to do stuff to the images... (like resizing) (note image in the centre is a smaller version of 100px)

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You will also want to link to other pages... this is done by surrounding the text to link with 2 sets of square braces like this...

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So if I want to add a link to [[Cleaning Beads]] I just add the brackets around it... it's that simple.

== Kevin's Test ==

I hope this picture works :D

[[Image:charmbracelet.jpg|center]]

== Questions ==

Dickie, why didn't we get a wiki with WYSIWYG? :o)

Because it wouldn't have been a Wiki!! Wikis Use Wikitext !!
To be honest WYSIWYG is overrated, as it generally screws things up with no easy way to fix it, and you forever have to go back and edit the html to correct things. Wikitext is not ''that'' difficult to learn, and once you get the hang of it think how much use you will be to the '''''Wikis at large'''''...
I also thought that using the same software that runs Wikipedia would be
* More secure.
* More stable.
* Scalable.
* Easier for people to use who know about Wikis
* Not to difficult to learn
* Not something new to learn
* A known quantity.
It just seemed to make sense, sorry

Awww, okay then :o) I like the idea of 'building capacity' for the wikis at large, *gg*

[[Category:Testing]]

Sandpit

2008-11-12T11:44:31Z

Garishglobes: /* Wiki Editing Game!!! Log in (FHF username & p'word), click 'Edit' and add your name to the bottom of the list! */

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*Sparrow-Sabine

*Stacy
*Lush! - Julie
*Kevie192 - Kevin

[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]

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It is also possible to do stuff to the images... (like resizing) (note image in the centre is a smaller version of 100px)

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Teehee!!! :o)))))

You will also want to link to other pages... this is done by surrounding the text to link with 2 sets of square braces like this...

<tt><nowiki>[[Text to link]]</nowiki></tt>

So if I want to add a link to [[Cleaning Beads]] I just add the brackets around it... it's that simple.

== Kevin's Test ==

I hope this picture works :D

[[Image:charmbracelet.jpg|center]]

== Questions ==

Dickie, why didn't we get a wiki with WYSIWYG? :o)

Because it wouldn't have been a Wiki!! Wikis Use Wikitext !!
To be honest WYSIWYG is overrated, as it generally screws things up with no easy way to fix it, and you forever have to go back and edit the html to correct things. Wikitext is not ''that'' difficult to learn, and once you get the hang of it think how much use you will be to the '''''Wikis at large'''''...
I also thought that using the same software that runs Wikipedia would be
* More secure.
* More stable.
* Scalable.
* Easier for people to use who know about Wikis
* Not to difficult to learn
* Not something new to learn
* A known quantity.
It just seemed to make sense, sorry

Awww, okay then :o) I like the idea of 'building capacity' for the wikis at large, *gg*

[[Category:Testing]]

Sandpit

2008-11-12T11:44:01Z

Garishglobes: /* Wiki Editing Game!!! Log in (FHF username & p'word), click 'Edit' and add your name to the bottom of the list! */

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Don't forget to click 'Save Page' at the bottom once you're done, so you can admire your handywork!

PLEASE LEAVE THE TEXT ABOVE, BUT FEEL FREE TO CHANGE ANYTHING BELOW!

== '''Wiki Editing Game'''!!! Log in (FHF username & p'word), click 'Edit' and add your name to the bottom of the list! ==
What list?
There's no list on this editing thing, just a vast empty space waiting to be filled...help.....

== YES!!! I too have edited the wiki and am a wiki virgin no longer!! ==

*Sparrow-Sabine

*Stacy
*Lush! - Julie
*Kevie192 - Kevin

[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]

That's using the 'insert image button, but you have to upload a pic first!
(use code like this <tt><nowiki>[[Image:NZ-blog5.jpg]]</nowiki></tt>

It is also possible to do stuff to the images... (like resizing) (note image in the centre is a smaller version of 100px)

[[image:NZ-blog5.jpg|center|thumb|100px|Shells]]

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See the following link for more details on images [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images Help With images on MediaWiki]

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Image:NZ-blog5.jpg| making a gallery.
Image:NZ-blog5.jpg|This is cool!
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Image:NZ-blog5.jpg
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Teehee!!! :o)))))

You will also want to link to other pages... this is done by surrounding the text to link with 2 sets of square braces like this...

<tt><nowiki>[[Text to link]]</nowiki></tt>

So if I want to add a link to [[Cleaning Beads]] I just add the brackets around it... it's that simple.

== Kevin's Test ==

I hope this picture works :D

[[Image:charmbracelet.jpg|center]]

== Questions ==

Dickie, why didn't we get a wiki with WYSIWYG? :o)

Because it wouldn't have been a Wiki!! Wikis Use Wikitext !!
To be honest WYSIWYG is overrated, as it generally screws things up with no easy way to fix it, and you forever have to go back and edit the html to correct things. Wikitext is not ''that'' difficult to learn, and once you get the hang of it think how much use you will be to the '''''Wikis at large'''''...
I also thought that using the same software that runs Wikipedia would be
* More secure.
* More stable.
* Scalable.
* Easier for people to use who know about Wikis
* Not to difficult to learn
* Not something new to learn
* A known quantity.
It just seemed to make sense, sorry

Awww, okay then :o) I like the idea of 'building capacity' for the wikis at large, *gg*

[[Category:Testing]]