Frit-Happens !
December 15, 2019, 06:52:51 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
your ad here
News:
Where are you?? Add yourself to the NEW FHF map here  | On flickr? Join our Frit Happens group: here

VISIT THE WIKI HERE
Get FH Status updates via twitter @FritHappens

 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: inserts for 5mm beads  (Read 6166 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Tonyb
Supplier of beadable stuff
Forum Member
**
Posts: 80



WWW
« on: April 11, 2014, 07:52:24 AM »

Hi,

I have some 5mm mandrels and want to put metal inserts into the holes (sorry, I don't know the technical term here  Smiley). Can someone let me know what tools and fittings I need and where I can get them from.

Also, once fitted, would these still fit the beadable products (wine bottle stoppers etc) that are 3mm thick?

Many thanks

Tony
Logged

Blue Box Studio
Blue sky thinking & a load of hot air
Forum Member
******
Posts: 963


Just give me the coffee and no one gets hurt!


WWW
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 09:18:06 AM »

Rivets?  You can get them from Tuffnell Glass and the only thing you need is some glue and a steady hand.  2 part epoxy will work at a pinch but tends to fail after a while.  I use a Scotch Weld product but it is pricey http://www.warm-glass.co.uk/dp460-epoxy-glue-50ml-with-plunger-p-312.html

They will still have a 5mm hole in the bead, so will fit bottle stoppers etc just fine, although I find them a bit big and move around, so make my beads for things like this on 3mm mandrels.  I don't core my 3mm holed beads or anything for bottle stoppers though.
Logged

ajda
Forum Member
***
Posts: 220


« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »

Rivets are considerably cheaper from Palmer Metals, especially if you buy in bulk - http://www.palmermetals.co.uk/shop/sterling-silver-bead-grommet-5-0mm.html - they do other sizes (and a fancy one with a wider rim).

For solid cores, I'd recommend doing some research into the different corers available. I've used this one for years, coring and selling literally thousands, and I love it - http://retroglasstools.com/beadliner.aspx - NB it is very important to measure and cut your tubing accurately and to prepare the ends well, then it cores like a dream. I'm happy to share details of my measurements and methods if you want more info.

Tubing can be bought from Ginkodesigns on Etsy (925 sterling silver) or RioGrande.com (999 fine silver). I don't know why no one in the UK seems able to supply it at a reasonable price!
« Last Edit: April 21, 2014, 10:18:14 AM by mizgeorge » Logged

Tonyb
Supplier of beadable stuff
Forum Member
**
Posts: 80



WWW
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 08:06:07 AM »

Thanks for one information. I will look into rivets and tools.

Thanks Tony
Logged

June
Forum Member
****
Posts: 271



WWW
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 12:01:46 PM »

I don't think Palmers rivets are as well made as those sold by Martin, hence the difference in price  Smiley
Logged

Irene
Forum Member
**
Posts: 86



« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 11:10:03 AM »

I would very much like to know more about the corer for solid cores, the one you use ajda. Maybe you could post a couple of Pictures of riveted beads you have made With this Equipment. Also: is it difficult to cut the tubes, what Tools would you recommend for the job, and what would be the optimal thickness, or inner and Outer diameter for the tubing. 
Logged
theflyingbedstead
Forum Member
***
Posts: 224


« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 11:34:01 AM »

I would very much like to know more about the corer for solid cores, the one you use ajda. Maybe you could post a couple of Pictures of riveted beads you have made With this Equipment. Also: is it difficult to cut the tubes, what Tools would you recommend for the job, and what would be the optimal thickness, or inner and Outer diameter for the tubing. 

I have posted some tuts on using the Retro, Jim Moore, Nortel, Impress and the Mango Beadliners:

http://www.frit-happens.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=104.0

That will also give advice on cutting the tubing. I am having a glassy get together on Saturday in South Oxfordshire where you can see all of these tools. Please pm me if you are interested in coming along.
Logged

Charlotte x
ajda
Forum Member
***
Posts: 220


« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 11:42:39 AM »

Irene - there is a forum member called Charlotte "theflyingbedstead" who recently did a series of excellent reviews of different bead corers, including the one I have - and I added some info and tips of my own in a reply to that post. I'd strongly recommend having a read through it (and the other reviews she did).
http://www.frit-happens.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=44174

She mentions various sizes/types of tubing - I've tried several myself, but my favourite with this corer is the sterling silver tubing sold by Debbi Hackeson of Ginkodesigns on Etsy. It measures 5.08mm outer diameter and 4.37 inner diameter, and comes pre-annealed.

Once you've had a look at Charlotte's review(s), do get back to me if I can be any further help.

Alan
« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 11:46:22 AM by ajda » Logged

ajda
Forum Member
***
Posts: 220


« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 11:44:51 AM »

Ah - I seem to have crossed in the ether with Charlotte herself - so you've got it straight from the horses mouth!
Logged

theflyingbedstead
Forum Member
***
Posts: 224


« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 12:09:23 PM »

Ah - I seem to have crossed in the ether with Charlotte herself - so you've got it straight from the horses mouth!

Funny how that happens!  Grin
Logged

Charlotte x
Glyn Burton
Forum Member
***
Posts: 149


WWW
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 03:45:45 PM »

Rashbels sell sterling tube both 5 & 6mm. The best way to cut tube is with a tube cutter you can buy small cutters for a few pounds which will give perfect square cuts easily and accurately.
Logged
Irene
Forum Member
**
Posts: 86



« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 07:40:05 PM »

Thank you, I will read those posts carefully, look like its a lot of information there. And thank you for the invitation Charlotte, only problem is I live in Norway, so the trip would be a bit too long I think.... ha ha.
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.031 seconds with 18 queries.