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Technical Forum => Studio/workspace/setup/equipment => Ventilation => Topic started by: Rachel on September 06, 2008, 03:51:12 PM

Title: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Rachel on September 06, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
Hi guys

I need to get my ventilation sorted out... with the cold weather coming I don't really want to sit with doors and windows wide open.

I'm leaning towards a cooker hood but I wanted to get feedback from those of you that have one.  Do they do the job?  What makes do you have? 

I've seen these hydroponics fans but I'm not sure whether they can be used.  Would they withstand the heat?



Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Shirley on September 06, 2008, 03:54:37 PM
I've been using a hydroponics fan for over a year and it seems to work fine. It hasn't melted, and if I turn on the propane with no oxy you can see it pulling the flame over so I think it probably gets rid of the fumes pretty well.

I've not got round to putting up the cooker hood that I scrounged from a friend. :)
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Sulis (Hazel) on September 06, 2008, 09:12:49 PM
Hi Rachel, I use a cooker hood that I got from Freecycle. It's pretty good. I used to get headaches before I installed it and now I get none at all (from the lampworking anyway!)
I used an incense stick when I installed it just to make sure it was sucking stuff up - and that worked. I'm sure it's not as good as a purpose built high powered extractor, but it works really well for me.
Hope that helps :)
Hazel
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: mariag on September 06, 2008, 09:32:36 PM
I've got a Wickes cooker hood & haven't suffered any headaches while torching.
I noticed in yesterday's paper that B&Q are selling cooker hoods for £25 (while stocks last)
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Les on September 06, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
I need to get my ventilation sorted, what with the bad weather kicking in.... need to sell a few beadies first tho... :P

xx
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Rachel on September 06, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
Thanks guys.  Maria - I had a look on the B&Q website - they've got one for £39.00 - was £59.  I think I may pop down there tomorrow and see if they have any of the £25 ones left.

Am I right in thinking that you have to get a ducting kit for it?

Shirley - I looked at the hydroponics fans and you can get some pretty powerful ones.  I'm not sure how I would set it up over my torch though.  
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Shirley on September 06, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
I've use a two level computer desk. The torch sits on the base part and the fan is on the shelf. There's a pic somewhere on here in the studio thread ...hang on....

here you go - fan is the silver and white cylinder thingy. The silver part is an aluminium tube. I've also got a fan heater/cooler below the desk so it blows the fumes further away. No ducting at the moment because the wall goes into my neighbour's garage!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/shirleygiles/DSCN2210.jpg)
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: mariag on September 06, 2008, 10:31:22 PM
Rachel, we bought the ducting bits & pieces from Wickes but I haven't got a cover on the outside of the duct as I was worried it might block. I have put some netting over it though to stop snails & floobies getting in.
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Funky Cow on September 06, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
What are floobies?
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: mariag on September 06, 2008, 10:48:37 PM
wasps, flies......anything flying & yukky :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Shirley on September 06, 2008, 10:52:17 PM
ah, the smell of burning moth  :-[
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Katiequiggle on September 09, 2008, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: Shirley on September 06, 2008, 10:52:17 PM
ah, the smell of burning moth  :-[

LMAO

I too have to sort out a cooker hood.  I refuse to spend another winter with warm top half and freezing bottom half, clad in blankets and 2 pairs of fishing socks because the doors and windows are open.  There seems to be a shortage of them on our local freecycle at the moment boo hoo.
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Pandanimal on September 09, 2008, 10:17:56 AM
I need to get ventilation sorted too.
I been working during summer with all the doors open.
The sound of the rain falling on the gravel outside my door was quite soothing.
Unlike the arguments between my 4 sons over whose turn it was on the computer/Wii/Gamecube.

What sucking power should I look for in a cooker hood?
No raised eyebrows now...you all know what I mean.
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Magpieandbadger on September 10, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
The information here might alarm and baffle you at first, but it's very sound and will help you make the best decision for your ventilation.

Since my new studio is in the house in a small bedroom I wanted to get everything right.

http://mikeaurelius.wordpress.com/

Alun and I designed and had a glass Barley Box built, and there is a powerful fan sucking the badness out. It's vented directly out a window. The box, fan, ducting and window arrangement cost about £250 but I feel it was well worth it.

Remember, it's not just the bad air going out, you have to think about your good air coming in as well.

You can see the not quite completed unit at the edge of the photo here.

http://www.magpieandbadger.co.uk/news.html

Diana

Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Magpieandbadger on September 10, 2008, 02:09:30 PM
Here's the link directly to the ventilation pages.

http://mikeaurelius.wordpress.com/ventilation-primer/
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Pandanimal on September 12, 2008, 02:45:56 PM
Thanks for this link.
It looks pretty comprehensive.
I have passed it on to my Hubbie/chief handyman to be next on the list after he's plumbed in my downstairs bathroom.
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: Rachel on September 17, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
Thanks for all the info and suggestions.  I've finally got it sorted.  I bought a cooker hood from Wickes last week but after some consideration, due to the low ceiling in my room and concerns over whether it would be sufficient, I took it back at the weekend.  Instead I went for an 8" hydroponics fan at 750 m/3 per hour.

My dad came round this morning and fitted it for me and it works fantastically. Absolutely no fumes at all.  Did a test with smoke and it zooms down the ducting.  It even nearly had my silver foil off the bench! 

I may have to adjust it slightly as it takes some of the heat away from my flame but I'd rather deal with that than the effects of fumes.

I had a hole cut in the bench opposite my torch and the ducting goes down there - I have the opening at a slight angle to my flame so that all the nasties are pulled downwards.  The fan is under my bench and is ducted out the wall.  The whole set up cost me £130.

I'll post some pics later if any ones interested.

I have to say I could probably have got away with a 6" fan (450 m/3) as my run of ducting is small. 
Title: Re: Ventilation/cooker hood?
Post by: GoodMonkey on September 17, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: Rachel on September 17, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
Thanks for all the info and suggestions.  I've finally got it sorted.  I bought a cooker hood from Wickes last week but after some consideration, due to the low ceiling in my room and concerns over whether it would be sufficient, I took it back at the weekend.  Instead I went for an 8" hydroponics fan at 750 m/3 per hour.

My dad came round this morning and fitted it for me and it works fantastically. Absolutely no fumes at all.  Did a test with smoke and it zooms down the ducting.  It even nearly had my silver foil off the bench! 

I may have to adjust it slightly as it takes some of the heat away from my flame but I'd rather deal with that than the effects of fumes.

I had a hole cut in the bench opposite my torch and the ducting goes down there - I have the opening at a slight angle to my flame so that all the nasties are pulled downwards.  The fan is under my bench and is ducted out the wall.  The whole set up cost me £130.

I'll post some pics later if any ones interested.

I have to say I could probably have got away with a 6" fan (450 m/3) as my run of ducting is small. 


I would be interested in piccies please.