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Title: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Cecilia on July 03, 2014, 06:30:43 AM
Hi. I have had a request from a customer who would like a bead 1.5 - 2 inches, square, preferably flat and decorated with a pattern of medal ribbons. 8 ribbons to be precise.
I did suggest to her that it might be easier for a fuser to get the precise patterns, I am thinking tiny pieces of stringer to give the medal stripes.
I am quite happy if someone would like to take this over for me as I am not sure how I can do this.
I think it is a remembrance bead and it is important to her to get the pattern correct.
Any ideas.
Thanks. Cecilia X


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Cecilia on July 04, 2014, 05:43:51 AM
Help. X


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Steampunkglass on July 04, 2014, 06:00:56 AM
Only thing I can think of is making a custom murine for the ribbons, then popping those onto the bead. It means a lot of work to make a murine that looks like a ribbon, but you'd have more control over the shape and colours, then once it's done you'll be able to make the bead fairly easily. Other way might be to look at decals, or paint them on?  ???


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Cecilia on July 04, 2014, 07:22:00 AM
Hmmn tricky one. Thanks. X


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: marklaird on July 04, 2014, 07:22:53 AM
Hi Cecilia,

I think I made something like this on a fusing course back in Jan. I've uploaded a photo to flickr.

https://flic.kr/p/ocjHz6    (for some reason I can't access the BBcode to link directly) but is this the sort of thing that you are after?

Mark


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Fiona on July 04, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Do you have a picture of the pattern you need to produce?  That might make it easier for someone to suggest what you could do to achieve it.


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Kaz on July 04, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
All I can say is...JUST SAY NO!!!
I think life's too short to spend it trying to meet other people's increasingly bizarre requests!


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on July 04, 2014, 07:28:56 PM
Does it have to be a bead? If it's flat then this could easily be a glass kiln fired piece with the ribbons printed or painted on using enamels. Then a bail could be attached or holes drilled for hanging etc.

I get a lot of commissions and don't find anything too bizarre as long as it's something I know I can make and the client can afford to pay for.


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Enchanted Cobwebs on July 05, 2014, 02:22:38 AM
All I can say is...JUST SAY NO!!!
I think life's too short to spend it trying to meet other people's increasingly bizarre requests!


I agree! You may spend days trying to do it and then even if you produce something its 'not quite what I was after' or 'How much? its only a bead!' I have learned to say no if its not something I can do without thinking, I'd rather channel my workings out into something I am trying to create for my own satisfaction. My most recent NO was a teardrop pendant 70mm long just 5mm thick at one end and 30mm at the other


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Lakelady on July 05, 2014, 04:09:31 AM
I agree you should just say no.  I do loads of commission work and if the client won't give me artistic license or asks for anything mm precise I won't do it.  It's safer and easier that way as people do tend to have unrealistic expectations!  ;)


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: June on July 05, 2014, 05:28:01 AM
All I can say is...JUST SAY NO!!!
I think life's too short to spend it trying to meet other people's increasingly bizarre requests!


Kaz has it spot on. I was once asked for a kite shaped bead with each quarter a different colour and I can't tell you how much time I spent for next to nothing and it was ok. Fusing sounds like a possibility but I don't have enough coloured stringers to try it myself.


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: flame n fuse on July 08, 2014, 05:07:33 AM
As you suggested, I think fusing would be best for this.


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on August 12, 2014, 05:12:17 PM
Sometimes, it's nice to say Yes!  ;)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/14713631380_9828f3b73e.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3846/14899960092_4af23e4a88.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5557/14713622860_1de58f9101.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3908/14713754517_5f52d1d438.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/14897257571_e815318253.jpg)


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Corinne Lacy on August 12, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Wow!!! What a result!


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Fiona on August 13, 2014, 03:53:39 AM
That looks great Rachel. I bet she loves it.  :)


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Glyn Burton on August 13, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
I must admit that I agree with Kaz but glassline pens from warmglass are great for fine line work IF the customer is prepared to pay the price.


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Cecilia on August 25, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Wow Rachel, they came out brilliantly. I am sure the customer will be very happy  with them. Thank you for taking this over from me, I would never have been able to achieve that.
Xxx


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on August 25, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
No problem, she's received it and it's going off to be make into a memorial necklace so I've asked for a picture once it's completed too. It took about a month to make but mostly waiting for things to dry so they could be tidied and fired. Probably around a dozen firings of the different colours in the ol bead cube kiln!

But I'll know if I ever get a lampworking enquiry that I can't produce not to bother directing them to this forum anymore given the comments on here!


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Enchanted Cobwebs on August 25, 2014, 11:35:44 AM
What an amazing piece!
I agree that it must be nice to say yes when you know you can achieve it and maybe one day in the distant future I will know what that feels like! For now I have to say no unless its within my capability to avoid disappointment for all concerned. No negativity ever intended simply an admission of my own limitations.
 :-[


Title: Re: "Fruit Salad" Bead
Post by: Moira HFG on August 25, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
That looks brilliant. A great design solution!