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Title: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 10, 2012, 03:19:52 AM
Has anybody come across red and black striated glass sheets? COE doesn't matter.....I'm actually going to do some stained glass, lol!


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Lilley on January 10, 2012, 04:22:41 AM
You can get black and clear straited and red and clear striated from Creative Glass Guild Bristol https://www.creativeglassguild.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_39 but they didn't seem to have any red/black.  If you can't find a red/black sheet then you could use black and clear baroque with a transparent red and high heart lead, i.e. cut the shape you want from both the baroque and the red and lead them together.  Or you could try English Antique Glass at http://www.englishantiqueglass.co.uk/information.html  they make streaky and striated glasses and may possibly be able to make to order - might be worth an ask.


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 10, 2012, 04:34:15 AM
Thanks Karen, I toyed with the idea of fusing one to the other and then cut, I hadn't realised I could lead them together (thankfully, I do have a friend nearby who knows what she's doing!!) - I live near Kansacraft, maybe I just need to go there and have a good meander once I know the exact design :)


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Lilley on January 10, 2012, 04:54:46 AM
High heart lead came has 7mm rather than 5mm space to slot the glass into so unless you are using very thick glass you can slot two sheets in, don't know if you can get different widths across the top, the one Creative Glass Guild sell is 10mm across the top and is rounded.  Looks like Kansacraft is a similar glassy emporium to Creative - I have to have a list, only enough money available for what's on the list, and either very little time or lots of self discipline to got here or I spend too much ::)
Only thing to make sure you do if you are going to laminate two sheets together is to put masking tape or some such around the two glasses, lead them up, then putty etc, cut off the excess tape and clean etc.  If you don't tape then you will get putty inbetween the two sheets of glass and this is not a good look!
Will look forward to seeing the end product  :)


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 10, 2012, 04:57:45 AM
Thanks for the tips!!!! I'm aiming for something geometric with straight lines, lol - won't do to overly challenge myself! I'll share it when it's done!


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Emma @ Tuffnell Glass on January 10, 2012, 06:18:24 AM
I have red buroque and blue buroque in my house and they are my fave glass ever! Are you planning on fusing them though? As if I remember right the red one goes opq????? I think  ??? lol its a long time since I fused  :P


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 10, 2012, 06:21:56 AM
No, not planning on fusing....well, I need to get *some* of the bits of glass I'll be using in the kiln, but not the red.........*wriggles eye bows mysteriously*  :)


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Pat from Canvey on January 11, 2012, 03:36:19 AM
If you Google "fractures and streamers glass", you'll see the range of this type of glass available. Tempsford stained glass do a small range and I think they are nearer to you, may be wrong.


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: greenbeadenvy on January 11, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
*wriggles eye bows mysteriously*  te he he he now I can think of no other image than this one  ;D


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Glyn Burton on January 11, 2012, 04:41:35 PM
Hi the traditional way to do it is to paint grisaille on to the glass (sometimes called tracing black) and fire it on. That's how the shading is done on traditional stained glass is done, its very straight forward. I think Rachel down the road from you in Stocksbridge knows how to do it or my sister Tina (Rachel's friend) could show you how. The definitive book is "The Art of Painting on Glass by Albinus Elskus", Neil at Kansa used to sell it but it can be hard to find. I have a copy, if you are struggling let me know and I will lend it to you.


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 11, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
Thanks Glyn - I've got the book, I was just hoping to tackle one bit of new skill at the time, lol! Maybe I'll need to be braver! I know Tina  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Gordon on January 12, 2012, 11:57:09 AM
This stuff any good Glass Studio Supplies ( Wickford, Essex ) (http://www.glassstudiosupplies.co.uk/epages/es137568.sf/en_GB/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=19146175)


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: awrylemming on January 12, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Those are beautiful, really lovely.  Makes me feel like having another go at fusing.


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 12, 2012, 01:37:53 PM
Oooh, very yummy, thank you!


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: Pat from Canvey on January 14, 2012, 03:57:33 AM
If you're looking for tracing black, try http://leadandlight.co.uk/shop/  in Camden. It's easy to use. I prefer to mix it with clove oil just because I love the smell. You can apply it with any kind of implement, ranging from a sponge, potato cut, brush or a fine tipped dipping pen. The pen enables you to do legible writing as well as tracing any picture you put under your glass. The tracing black has to be fired, look at
http://www.realglasspainting.com/wp-content/myimages/ourfiringschedules.pdf for a table of firing temperatures. Here's an angel I did years ago.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1426/5604171/12685369/371653961.jpg)
If you do get a supply, munchkin can perhaps do a potato cut at the same time. I'm sure he would enjoy it.


Title: Re: Red/Black striated glass sheets - do they exist?
Post by: sparrow on January 14, 2012, 10:24:27 AM
Thanks so much Pat, that sounds like fun!!!