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Title: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Grody on December 10, 2010, 02:19:22 PM
OK, first question of 2 on glass cutters.

If the tungsten disc in my oil-filled glass cutter is so hard, why do we see regular cautions to never go over the initial score, with the warning that, if we do, it will ruin the cutter. Surely, if I did choose to re-visit the initial score (I've only ever done it a couple of times), then the only debris the wheel would encounter along the score line would be microscopic shards of glass thrown up from the surface of the glass by the initial score - which the tungsten cutter is then surely hard enough to cut through without any trouble?

Anyone have any more info to add to this?

Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Zeldazog on December 10, 2010, 02:25:56 PM
If sandpaper is abrasive enough to rub away paint, or smooth down wood, how come it wears away?

How can you blunt a diamond encrusted drill bit, or wear down a diamond disc with excessive force?

Why do you have to sharpen a knife or a saw, made of metal, when they're used to cut meat or wood?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 04:01:46 PM
OOo are we doing cryptic puzzles now........the answer is sausages divided by 7.3 ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Galloway Beads on December 10, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
Sorry, no offence, just having a quiet snigger  ;D ;D ;D ;D    Very funny girls
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: elburnzo on December 10, 2010, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Zeldazog on December 10, 2010, 02:25:56 PM
If sandpaper is abrasive enough to rub away paint, or smooth down wood, how come it wears away?

How can you blunt a diamond encrusted drill bit, or wear down a diamond disc with excessive force?

Why do you have to sharpen a knife or a saw, made of metal, when they're used to cut meat or wood?

very philosophical sounding answer!

The real qu is why would u want to score over a previous score? it only makes matters worse and wont fix anything.

SOmething being hard isnt the same as sharp. Hard is a physical property whereas sharp is how it is edged, by the theory above- knives dont start out sharp, they are made tht way, same goes for the glass cutter. Your ruining the edging which makes it less effective not less hard
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Blue Box Studio on December 10, 2010, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: Tan on December 10, 2010, 04:01:46 PM
OOo are we doing cryptic puzzles now........the answer is sausages divided by 7.3 ;D

Q.E.D Tan; I flunked A level maths so will happily go with your calculation as it has sausages in it.  Personally I'd have preferred Pi as a divider because it's an irrational number (like me) but pi will do if no sausages.   ::) ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Hmm Key Lime Pi it is then :D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Blue Box Studio on December 10, 2010, 05:01:17 PM
Your place or mine - by the time you've got here I'll have bought the cream and laid the table - or I can drive very fast down the M5.
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
I'm on my way and I'm bringing banoffee pie and steamed toffee pudden with clotted cream ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Zeldazog on December 10, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
Quote from: elburnzo on December 10, 2010, 04:53:50 PM
very philosophical sounding answer!


Ha. Your response is far better than mine. 

I think I just wanted to point out that something being tougher than something else doesn't make it indestructible.

I'll bring fudge.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: MadelineBunyan on December 10, 2010, 06:18:58 PM
*leaps out highwayman style, armed with pistol grip glass cutters*

stick em up! this is a thread hijack!

hand over them pies! (and fudge)
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: helenfc on December 10, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: MadelineBunyan on December 10, 2010, 06:18:58 PM
*leaps out highwayman style, armed with pistol grip glass cutters*

stick em up! this is a thread hijack!

hand over them pies! (and fudge)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D snort of raspberry tea on the laptop now, thanks madeline!!  :P
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 07:16:49 PM
Tan whips out the cheese, temporarily blinding Madeline with its pure cheesiness. Steals the pistol grip glass cutters and carries on her merry way to Sues.............and now not only do we have pudding but we have glass cutters too :D


Chase me Madeline and I will make sure they save you pie :-*
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: jammie on December 10, 2010, 07:26:50 PM
Just sometimes I have noticed that it can be a risky business posting a question on this forum  ::)

Now..... Did someone mention puddin.......
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: julieHB on December 10, 2010, 07:38:38 PM
I guess we'll never hear the second question now...  ::) ::) :D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: SilverGems89 on December 10, 2010, 07:44:03 PM
omg you girls have given me the best giggle i've had in weeks  ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: MadelineBunyan on December 10, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
as long as you leave the cheese I don't care! I'm not sure, but I think I might love cheese just as much as puddings!
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: MadelineBunyan on December 10, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
I do hope we haven't scared you off Grody...what's this about a second question...*sometimes* we just stick to sensible glass answers...

might want to start a new thread though, this ones been so thoroughly derailed I think people might be a little disappointed to see it return to a glassy level of normality.
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: rustyhalo on December 10, 2010, 09:36:35 PM
 Grody thanks for posting your question, even though it wasn't quite the answer you was looking for it lead to this thread really cheering me up :) Do you feel brave enough to ask the second question?  ::)
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 09:49:11 PM
But its soooooooo much fun, poor Grody must be wondering why the hell they bothered ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Flyingcheesetoastie on December 10, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Um, I'm confused, what was the question?

Do I have to point out the obvious as to why you don't go over the score line twice?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: garishglobes on December 10, 2010, 10:10:32 PM
Because you don't get two goals?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 10, 2010, 10:15:27 PM
Because everyone knows once you cross THAT line there is no going back?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Scubeadoo on December 10, 2010, 11:39:29 PM
I think Grody has grabbed a pie and run for the touchline :o

Are we all bonkers or is it just the gas fumes?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on December 11, 2010, 08:21:59 AM
I'm bonkers FOR the gas fumes if thats any help?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: jammie on December 11, 2010, 09:26:37 AM
Well, its too cold to torch so some people are getting bored and antsy obviously and need to be distracted by pudding to take their mind of things. :)
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Pat from Canvey on December 11, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
And here I was expecting a thread about the relative merits of different glass cutters. Jammie, it's not too cold for me to torch. I torch indoors in the central heating. Sorry to rub it in but I sometimes get a little ansty about people referring to their glorious shedios.
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: AnnaSpanna on December 11, 2010, 11:56:39 AM
just a thought... but would the wheeled glass cutter be doubling as a pie cutter in this instance? And as for the original question surely this slew of randomness in response is just desserts?
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Jay9 on December 11, 2010, 12:18:04 PM
Thanks guys, best laugh I've had in ages.  ;D   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: jammie on December 11, 2010, 01:55:55 PM
Pat, luckily I am indoors too, the utility room that wanted to be a conservatory but didnt make it , even with heating its been really cold. Its not so much the cold stopping me though as not feeling up to it, so definetly antsy and eating a lot of puddin!  :) See you are torching and you  didnt mention a need for puddin, my theory still holds!!  ::) :D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Pat from Canvey on December 11, 2010, 03:36:07 PM
Not pudding, but I'm eating Spoony's Funky Chunky Caramel Shortcake Ice Cream as I type. We have a thaw and nearly all the snow has gone from the front and back gardens. Even the cats ventured outside for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: jammie on December 11, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Ah now yum! That's a  puddin among puddins,  another  theory down the pan! :)
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: AnnaSpanna on December 11, 2010, 07:20:26 PM
ooooh never heard of that ice cream..... sounds luscious though. Might have to go find some for when I'm feeling better!
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Lucas on December 12, 2010, 01:55:36 PM
Course the good thing about the cold is that I don't need to worry that I have more chilled food (inc puddings) than I have room in my fridge - bags of stuff outside the backdoor!
What was that about cutters??
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: JaySpangles on December 12, 2010, 05:20:09 PM
This poor person asked a serious question, and all you lot can do is make puns about pies, puddings and ice cream! 
I suspect we won't ever hear from Grody again. 
Dear Grody - take heart.  SOMETIMES you will get a sensible answer (not often though)
I am giggling my way to the pudding cupboard now..............
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: Grody on December 16, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
Hmmmm......... I think there's a Mars/Venus situation here. For those who tried to give a constructive comment - thank you but, for the rest, I hope to goes straight to your hips! javascript:void(0);

I'll post the second question now - I'm no wiser but I do think this one has run out of steam (although, not calories).
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: AnnaSpanna on December 16, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
There is so no gender distinction here whatsoever....

ladies get yer 'handbags we've got a live 'un ere who seems to not 'ave a sweet tooth!!!!!

;D
Title: Re: Glass cutters - two questions - this is the 1st
Post by: julieHB on December 16, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
Actually Grody, independently of Mars and Venus, I think you have been given your answer (never mind the jokes!)  :)