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Title: encasing silver
Post by: flowerjasper on November 26, 2008, 09:57:40 PM
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg313/flowerjasper/chooks015.jpg)
i made this bead at the class with sarah hornik in the summer,
i have been asked to make similar beads, round , with swirly pale blue and silver encased instead of gold,
would silver foil be better than leaf? and what are the chances of it discolouring when encased? i will be using lausha.

i may do a different version, of a pale blue silk bead with silver wire around it, what do you think?
ideas welcomed  ;)
sandy
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: Shadowdarner on November 29, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
Hi Sandy,

I like foil better than leaf myself.....I guess I'd experiment a bit with both and just see what the results are....I know this may not help a lot  :-\ 

Pretty bead though!

Shadow (Delana)
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: littlegiggles on November 29, 2008, 12:43:36 PM
using lauscha will turn your silver to a golden hue.... the only way to keep it silver is to use a different clear... historically I would have recommended vetro... but the quality of it seems to be really poor at the moment... I think crystal clear is the one most people would recomend now to keep it silver
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: Shirley on November 29, 2008, 01:16:47 PM
there is a new clear on the way, made by double helix. It's being called 'aether' in the US. Have a look at this http://www.lampworketc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112958
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: misspixie on November 30, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
I've only used leaf - managed to keep it silver, but you have to keep it way out of the flame, and try not to get it too hot when you're melting in the clear. It's not fool-proof, but it's possible. I only use effetre clear.
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: flowerjasper on November 30, 2008, 04:10:46 PM
thanks for the tips,
have made few, the encased wire looks silver on some bases and not others, not had much luck encasing the foil, will try again,
sandy
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: garishglobes on November 30, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
If you're using a blue base, could you try pale aqua as an encasing rather than clear?
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: Sarah on November 30, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
Or try using palladium instead of silver. Its expensive but it stays silver when encased.

Sarah
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: flowerjasper on November 30, 2008, 06:08:46 PM
was coming to that conclusion sarah,
i am taking the few beads i have done to show lara, thats who has asked me ,just so we are talking the same blue
palladium might be the best bet  :)
sandy
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: Trudi on December 02, 2008, 09:40:08 PM
good luck and let us know how you get on!
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: StudioMarcy on December 03, 2008, 09:06:49 PM
I was taught to use pale aqua or pale blue if at all possible.

It seems like most clears just don't stay that way when around silver.

I got a hold of a clear that was made in the Soviet Union years ago and not made anymore.  (not compatible with any other glass either, but great for practice and I couldn't beat the price.)
Look at what it does with silver foil.... http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=12037179.  I just wish it would work with something else.

Marcy

http://www.studiomarcy.blogspot.com
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: flowerjasper on December 03, 2008, 09:12:14 PM
love the gold  ;)
as you say if it worked with anything else the posibilities would be endless
s x
Title: Re: encasing silver
Post by: StudioMarcy on December 03, 2008, 11:06:02 PM
I know.  I think I'll need to get a job at a carnival so I can use up the clear and learn to make little clowns and elephants. รท)

Marcy

http://www.StudioMarcy.etsy.com