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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Im a glassy babe on October 22, 2008, 10:01:49 AM

Title: Intense Black
Post by: Im a glassy babe on October 22, 2008, 10:01:49 AM
Hi,

Does anyone else hae problems with Intense black lentils cracking?  I made some lovely ones last night with swirls of psyche which I was really chuffed with.  When i took them off mandrels this morning 2 out of 3 cracked instantly. ???

Think I've tried Intense Black before on another type of bead and something similar happened too!

What did I do wrong?

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: catriona on October 22, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
Hi i had the same prob with tiles i made 15 in all and only have 3 to show for it .
xxcatxx
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Billie on October 22, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
Never heard of that before.  I use it a lot as raised stringer...  :-\  Do you anneal as you go, or batch?  Were the previous beads that cracked also with a double helix glass?
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on October 22, 2008, 01:33:37 PM
Do you use it as the base of the whole bead or as light decoration? It might be that it doesn't like itself that much, some of the glasses are funny like that the P and T glasses seem to be the worst culprits!!
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: garishglobes on October 22, 2008, 03:06:23 PM
Oh no, glass angst!! :D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Kaz on October 22, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
It's very intense
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: TiaraHelen on October 22, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
Quote from: Kaz on October 22, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
It's very intense
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: flowerjasper on October 22, 2008, 09:49:59 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Rachel on October 22, 2008, 11:34:53 PM
Never had a problem with intense black but then I've only ever used it in very thin stringer.  How did you use it Vicki?
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: catriona on October 22, 2008, 11:48:54 PM
I was using it as the base bead with some dots on it retro style .
xxcatxx
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Donna@Rockin' Beads on October 23, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
Quote from: TiaraHelen on October 22, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
Quote from: Kaz on October 22, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
It's very intense
;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Im a glassy babe on October 23, 2008, 11:31:26 AM
Thanks everyone.

I was using it as a base colour, with psyche swirls on top.  I've just tried using it as another base bead to see what happens.  Is it not a good glass for a base, is it more for decoration?

Newbie at this so not sure what on earth I'm doing sometimes  ;D
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: firedinglass on October 23, 2008, 11:34:44 AM
 Hi Vicki,  I only ever use intense black for effects not for base.  I have had problems when applying too much to a bead.  Given the cost and it's wonderful qualities I would probably keep  it for this and use something like Hades if you want a strong black.  Just my opinion but hope it helps :)
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on October 23, 2008, 12:41:50 PM
Intense black is mainly used for decoration, usually when black is pulled into stringer it shows as purple against a light base, intense black stays black. Its also put to good use when used in hair thin stringers over ivory, it webs out. It is a pricey glass because of the density of pigment thats why most people use it as decoration only

A normal black will be fine if you want it as a base bead ;)
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: garishglobes on October 23, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
QuoteA normal black will be fine if you want it as a base bead
Having said that, I've had problems with Vetro black as a base for some silver glasses, so I'd go for Hades as a strong black base.
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on October 23, 2008, 03:22:11 PM
I stick with effetre black, its never failed me yet and I've bunged allsorts on it, I found the vetro black can have a bit of a haze sometimes, almost as if its trying to be a silver glass...........but without the colours ::)
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: saffie on October 23, 2008, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: tanok on October 23, 2008, 03:22:11 PM
I stick with effetre black, its never failed me yet and I've bunged allsorts on it, I found the vetro black can have a bit of a haze sometimes, almost as if its trying to be a silver glass...........but without the colours ::)

I was deeply into Hades black and still love it but it is quite a stiff glass. I have rediscovered effetre black and love it! it is quite happy to have most things shoved on it!!!
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Im a glassy babe on October 23, 2008, 08:26:24 PM
ok, that's great, thanks for the help! ;D

Will go back to effetre or maybe give hades a go. x x V
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Shirley on October 23, 2008, 09:11:57 PM
I love Hades, but you have to watch it because it can do fun things with other glass, especially silver glass. It really is a proper black, though. One of my favourites. :)
Title: Re: Intense Black
Post by: Im a glassy babe on October 23, 2008, 09:17:33 PM
Thanks Shirley.  I suppose a lot of experimentation is in order.  Oh no, means more time beading. ;)