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Lampwork => Lampworking Tip n Tricks => Topic started by: LittleMoo on October 07, 2008, 09:59:00 AM

Title: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: LittleMoo on October 07, 2008, 09:59:00 AM
Does anyone know if Goldstone / Aventurine itself has a COE, or whether it just 'becomes' the COE of the glass you encase it with?

For example, if I make some aventurine stringers using Bullseye COE90, does this make the stringer completely COE90 or is it more unstable than a bullseye stringer made wholly from glass?

What about the aventurine rods you can buy? I have a green rod but have no idea of the COE. Does anyone know if Aventurine rods are usually a particular COE?
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: kaatje on October 07, 2008, 10:28:43 AM
I think you have to apply the 5%-rule here as well!
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: *rowanberry* on October 07, 2008, 11:16:32 AM
I *think* aventurine does have a COE as its copper particles in glass? and therefore you have to think about in terms of using glass as with any other. I could be wrong here though...

Bullseye does a funky green sparkly rod which is basically green aventurine, and thats fantastic. Bt you can also get 104coe aventurine rods too, just to confuse you!

Modified to say - yup it looks like I am right, and if you look at this page it says what COE to use it with:
http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/aventurine.html
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: Mary on October 07, 2008, 11:28:59 AM
I've seen 104 aventurine, and 96 aventurine, so you do need to watch which you've got.
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: LittleMoo on October 07, 2008, 11:34:27 AM
Cheers guys.

So I guess I need to a) find out whether the green aventurine rod I have is COE90, 96 or 104 and b) make sure I only use 5% aventurine with Bullseye glass!
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: Rachel on October 08, 2008, 12:01:19 AM
I was wondering this myself.  I found a few posts on WetCanvas and LE about it - it seems that several people use it with coes 90 and 96 with no problems.  If you use the chunks and encase it to pull your own stringer then I think it becomes compatible with that coe. 
Title: Re: Aventurine / Goldstone
Post by: ejralph on October 08, 2008, 07:40:21 AM
I think there is a lot of dodgy green goldstone chunk out there too. The stuff I have is very temperamental. So what did I do? I thought "I know, I will mix it with Czech glass" which is as moody as they come.

Result was a set of beads that literally exploded over the course of a fortnight. I had to keep them in a box and each time I would look in, another one had self-destructed into a million pieces.

A sobering lesson of course in two uncomfortable facts - which is coe doesn't always count of jack squiddly and annealing won't do a darn thing if the compatibility isnt there in the first place.

Emma