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Lampwork => Lampworking Tip n Tricks => Topic started by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 04:27:04 PM

Title: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 04:27:04 PM
How do I make those whispy looking coloured shards.... ???  I could be more polite with this question.. and say things like pretty please etc.. but all I want to know is how to make them :) 
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: sparrow on September 28, 2008, 04:38:12 PM
Errrr.....whispy looking as opposed to others? Have you got a pic of what you mean?
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 05:01:33 PM
I'll go and find one... :)
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 05:08:20 PM
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/fionaess/whispy.jpg)

Like these ones Sabine..
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: sparrow on September 28, 2008, 05:21:54 PM
Aaaaaah....others might correct me, but I think it's because the blob you put at the end of the hollow mandrel/tube thingy is quite hot, so you can heve fun with it before you blow it - like a gravity bead, kind of. Then, when you blow, you get whispiness.............I think  ;D
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Shirley on September 28, 2008, 05:25:15 PM
bit like blowing a balloon and then popping it.
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 05:41:11 PM
But wouldn't I lose my air bubble if I let it gravity swirl...... ???
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Bumpy Beads on September 28, 2008, 05:58:42 PM
Yes, if you lose your bubble you won't be able to blow it. I dip my blob in frit a couple of times, and let it melt in before blowing. Or you can add colour to your blob with stringer. Using a twistie to make your blob can create a nice effect too, or even just some filigrana. Just have a play and see what you get.  :)
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: sparrow on September 28, 2008, 06:13:37 PM
I swirl before I blow  ;D ;D That sounds *so* rude!
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: garishglobes on September 28, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
I just keep remembering the lady who looked at my website and reminded me you couldn't "hand blow"..
I tried rolling my ball in frit this afternoon (that doesn't sound too good either) and had real trouble blowing, as if the two glasses were expanding at different rates? It may well have been this stinking cold though - trying to blow shards with a blocked nose isn't easy!
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 28, 2008, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: garishglobes on September 28, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
I just keep remembering the lady who looked at my website and reminded me you couldn't "hand blow"..
I tried rolling my ball in frit this afternoon (that doesn't sound too good either) and had real trouble blowing, as if the two glasses were expanding at different rates? It may well have been this stinking cold though - trying to blow shards with a blocked nose isn't easy!

If you want a real fun time - especially with your cold - try making shards from vetro odds.... they are such mish mash of glass that they hardly seem to want to melt and then when they do, you can puff and puff and achieve something the size of a golf ball !!!  I must trying rolling my balls in frit... maybe melting and then rolling again.. then heating them and blowing... glass porn or what !!  :)  :)
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Les on September 28, 2008, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: sparrow on September 28, 2008, 06:13:37 PM
I swirl before I blow  ;D ;D That sounds *so* rude!
*struggles to stifle the sniggers*

:P

I'll get me coat...........................
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Pat from Canvey on September 30, 2008, 04:28:33 PM
I had a go with adding different coloured glasses and also tried one using up ends of twisties.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1426/5604171/20500169/336699549.jpg)
This is before I broke most of it up. The main base was light amber.
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Chameleon on September 30, 2008, 04:33:11 PM
twisties and reactive glasses are great for wispy ness .... try gathering a blob of one colour e.g. opal yellow on the end of your hollow pipe, then use a twistie or just a stripey cane of opal yellow and rubino and "encase" (roughly cover will do just fine) the blob with the twistie, melt it all in and blow  ;D

you can gravity swirl like Sabine suggested, just do it at the blob stage before you start to blow it up



...edited to add Vetro odds, if you build up your blob on the end of your hollow pipe by winding the glass round and round like you would to put glass on a mandrel for a bead you will get stripey-wispyes which will stay when the blob is blown into shards

edited again - pic of rubino opal yellow shards with twistie (centre) and stripey cane (just off to right of pic)
(http://www.chameleondesigns.co.uk/images/rasprippshards.jpg)
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: fionaess on September 30, 2008, 05:18:13 PM
Thanks Becky.... that was very interesting.. and I seem to have a ton of extremely odd twisties....
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Sherry Bellamy on September 30, 2008, 08:59:38 PM
I save up all of my ends and broken bits of silvered ivory, and make my shards from a big blob of dark ivory that I roll in the silvered bits. I cover it really, really thickly, actually several layers deep. Then I cook it quite violently...boil the surface....reduce it, etc. until it's incredibly gnarly looking.

Then I blow the shards. I get some pretty funky shards that way, and I use every molecule of my SIS. I don't make a hollow, I just blow out the solid blob with no problems.
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Ilona on September 30, 2008, 09:05:33 PM
I think I am going to have to try my hand at making shards :) I have bought mine in the past, but making your own sounds fun :)
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Chameleon on September 30, 2008, 09:20:49 PM
making your own is great fun  ;D ;D highly recommend it
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: firedinglass on December 29, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
I've never even tried to make a hollow bead :-[  but fancy trying my hand at making shards  it looks fun and as a bonus I'm thinking of all the money I'll save... ;D   Do I just need the hollow mandrel that Martin sells for making hollow beads/vessels?  Do you think i need to practice with the beads first or just go for it! 
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: turnedlight on December 29, 2008, 07:31:01 PM
I still haven't done this since discovering, in a real 'der' moment, that you don't use any bead release on the end! :D
Title: Re: Whispy looking shards
Post by: Pandanimal on January 08, 2009, 09:56:35 AM
I love the look of the beads made with shards.
But being a bit of a noob at lampwork still I feel I need a "blow by blow" (he he) tutorial of how to do it.
Does such a thing exist?
Will any hollow pipe/mandrel do? 
I have a birthday coming up soon and would like to get my hints dropped to D.H. so he can buy me the right sort.

Pan