Yep me again! :-[
I have some Triton and so far i can make it go very reflective and also get some limited colour change with it but i am wondering what differing results i could get from it if i knew what i was doing!
I have seen so many DH beads but most of the time they don't say what glass was used so i am confused at to what reactions i can expect from Triton.
It seems that the first time i reduce Triton it becomes dark and mirror-like then when i reduce again i can sometimes get a pale greeny blue mirror finish but so far that is the limit. I have seen beads that look like they may have been made with Triton that have an 'oil slick' colour palette..............is this produced from continued reduction?
One last question.....what does Triton look like when it has reached its limit of reaction and can i reheat it and start over again? Ok so that was two questions and here's the third - is Triton transparent or opaque or can it be both depending on how it is treated?
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Hope this all makes sense, it's a bit early for Grandma Bead, she has'nt put her teeth in, screwed her leg on and stuck her wig on yet!
;D ;) :P
ok, this is just my experience with triton so im sure other people will chip in too with theirs :)
a quick flash in a very slight reduction flame produces a silvery mirror shine
a longer time in the same only very slightly reducing flame produces different colours of metallic oil slicky ness
a long time in slight reduction or shorter time in heavier reduction produces a more opaque "milky" set of colours, if you get very milky colours that is then the limit of the reaction as such
you can undo the reduction by putting it into a oxy flame for a little while but it doesnt always go away evenly and I cannot get it to re strike evenly afterwards so for me its best to get it how i want it first time round.
You also get completely different effects & colours from triton under clear glass some of which are gorgeous (it will get a mother of pearl like shine that is very yummy)
anyhow hope that helps a bit at least ;D
Thanks chameleon that info is very useful.
When you say a 'very slight reduction flame' how do i achieve that on a HH? I am currently wrapping foil over the holes and getting a big whooshy yellow flame. Is this too much to get the 'oil slick' colours to appear?
Wish they made glass that did what you wanted it to everytime :D
As well as using the foil colour method you can put the bead into the small sark cone just above the head of the torch - where you're not supposed to put it!
Try it with different base colours too - it will be different on ivory to cobalt, for example
Also try making dots and putting a little clear over the top
All good fun!
Quote from: Shirley on August 12, 2008, 08:19:20 AM
As well as using the foil colour method you can put the bead into the small sark cone just above the head of the torch - where you're not supposed to put it!
Try it with different base colours too - it will be different on ivory to cobalt, for example
Also try making dots and putting a little clear over the top
All good fun!
ooooooh thanks for that Shirley - i will give it a try in the sark cone (another term to remember, lampworking is better than the Brain Training games for getting the old grey matter active). I will try it over other colours too. That's the problem when you're new, you don't know how different glasses react to each other, plus you're scared to waste your precious little stash of glass!
You girls are stars, thanks :-*
You do have to bite the bullet and "waste" it in order to find out what works and what doesn't but unless it is some discontinued colour, there is always more where that came from.
Kaz
I used to 'strangle' my hothead with a folded up tea towel rather than foil - that way you can hold it over the holes and tighten or loosen your grip to control the air flow. All my tea towels are scorched - pretty!
Get a good silver shine on your Triton, then let more air into the mix, quick flashes in and out of the flame, and the colours will develop.
Thank you ladies!
I have some Triton which arrived a couple of weeks back, but haven't been able to get near the torch because we're having our shower room refitted and the plumber is using the garage for storage. (It was supposed to be finished now, but the pipes are leaking somewhere inside the cavity wall and my daughters bedroom carpet is soaked - but that's another story >:()
So all I've done so far is stroke the rods of purest promise - I'm hoping to have a play on Sunday ;D
'Sark' cone? Think I just created a new term there. Shame it was my dodgy typing and I meant to say 'Dark' :D
SHIRLEY!!!!!!!!! honestly, i have gone and written in my notebook now.............'Sark Cone' is now official terminology according to Grandma Beads Law. ;)
Kaz you're right of course, i should'nt be afraid to use my glass...............i'm gonna use it all up willy-nilly! :D
I used to use a damp dishcloth over the hothead holes, although there was the risk of being a bit scalded! You don't have to hold it for long though.. then my Dad made a collar with a little handle so you could slip it up over the holes when needed - they really should build one in..
Quote from: Shirley on August 12, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
'Sark' cone? Think I just created a new term there. Shame it was my dodgy typing and I meant to say 'Dark' :D
He he .... I did wonder .......... :D :D :D
Probably had a cat sat between me and the keyboard. They do like to get involved. :D
Have to say you got me wondering too!
I must say I got my first reaction with triton and looking at the tips on here, I need to play a little more. I got the mirror shine but not the oil slick effect.
When I bought it from martin he showed me some of the beads they had done with triton and then encased in clear, the colours were beautiful. With that I really pushed the boat out and bought 2 rods. ::) I tend to only buy very small amounts of the special stuff just in case I can't get it to do its thing. :)
PS once I managed a reaction out of triton I did manage to get one out of psyche too. ;D