I have read a few tutorials about making creased petals - a few people use a "razor" tool - does anyone use one or know what they are like compared to a rake/pick?
When I`m trying flowers and wanting to poke a hole in the middle I`m using my rake tool from Martin which I got in my starter pack but the glass is sticking to it and then as I want to pull it away the glass goes with it and distorts my petals!!!!! >:( Is there a better way?
Helen x
I like to use a razor tool for petals, I got it from Martin.
I have a lovely tungsten pick that I use for poking holes. It has a wooden handle, can't remember where I got it from.Alternatively Beady sam does some nice brass tools.
If your tools are sticking they are probably getting too hot or they have a tiny bit of glass stuck to them that is catching your glass. Try heating them a little and then plunging them into cold water to get rid of any glass. Whatever you do I think you will find that they need replacing now and then. I have some that are sticking now. They aren't very expensive so it might be worth starting again and trying to make sure you don't actually heat the tool in the flame at all and use cold water to cool them as you work.
I bought a set of the dental picks, but the ends go black very quickly, and discolour the beads.. probably my not using it properly.. anyway, if you find the pick seems to stick, just blow on it a little and when it cools a bit it should come out.
I haven't got a razor tool but I use one of those knives like a scalpel, which you get in craft shops, the blade is replaceable. I think it's great, the other thing I have is 'feeler gauges' which I think must be for the car but I nicked some (from the junk drawer!), the thin ones are great for a knife edge.. ;D
Agree with Josephine - your pokey tool must be getting a little too warm - it's easy to do. Try and keep it away from the flame while you're spot heating your bead!!
For creases I have a brass pokey tool from Beady sam, but I used to use a stanley knife - works just as well!!
Thanks for that - off to try the stanley knife........................................ ;D
I used a Stanley knife for ages, then recently bought a razor tool......the Stanley knife worked fine (I made sure I got an all-metal one, as I'm prone to randomly drop molten glass rods onto my tools....), I just found the handle on the razor tool easier to use. You can still upgrade if you decide flowers are the way to go, though :)
For me a full selection of beadysams pokey proddy tools and then fill the rest of the bag up with FRIT!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like a plan........
Its a cunning one and look on it as .............your actually saving money by combining postage ;)
Can't praise the pokey proddy tools enough, wouldn't be without them ;D
NEVER put any steel tools directly in the flame. This will KILL them.
To use any steel tools like your stainless steel pick or dental picks heat up the bead, take it out of the heat and then use the tool. This way the tool won't stick to the bead and your ends won't go black. If you tool doesn't make enough impression you'll need to reheat your glass but resist the temptation to poke, prod or rake while in the flame, and then your tools will last forever.
Tungsten is the only metal which won't stick to the glass - and a tungsten pick is brill for making holes in things, but you can manage without. Keep a jamjar of water nearby to quench your tools if they get too hot.
Well I'm going to have to make myself some more pokey proddy pushy tools cos last week at Di Easts, Julie Denton pinched my set from me! LOL! ;D Brass on glass is class! It grabs then releases, but like all metal it gets hot so be careful out there... ;)
Quote from: tanok on August 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
For me a full selection of beadysams pokey proddy tools and then fill the rest of the bag up with FRIT!!!
I use Sam's brassy tools for all my plunging and creasing. I use them for all the creases on my vines
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/BillieJeanLittle/2008_06150014.jpg)
and for making swirls
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/BillieJeanLittle/2008_07090008.jpg)
and raking
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/BillieJeanLittle/J1512.jpg)
and sculpting
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/BillieJeanLittle/08022953.jpg)
In fact, I'm wanting a second set so I have a spare. I live in fear of anything happening to the ones I have :D
Quote from: beadysam on August 05, 2008, 10:31:39 PM
....... Brass on glass is class! ..... ;)
Oh I like the catch phrase, do you use it in your pokey proddy tool promotion ;D If not you should :D :D
Quote from: Billie on August 06, 2008, 07:50:15 AM
Quote from: tanok on August 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
For me a full selection of beadysams pokey proddy tools and then fill the rest of the bag up with FRIT!!!
and for making swirls
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa84/BillieJeanLittle/2008_07090008.jpg)
Oh which one do you use fot the swirls?? Pray tell!
Two of the tools have points. One is longer than the other. I use the longer one for swirling :)
You do? You don't use stringer? Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting! (*wishes she wasn't at work and could scuttle into the garage to play*)
I find the brass tools easier ;)
wow - I never thought of swirling with pointy brass tool, only used stringer, must have a go.
I'm stuck in work though, just like you Sabine, and by the time I get home will have forgotten what it was I was going to try ::)
Is it just the round point you use to swirl with??? I wouldn't have thought it would "grip" the glass!! Wasn't sure if you meant that you used the flat edged bit!! I've only used stringers!
Quote from: dinah46 on August 06, 2008, 09:53:26 AM
wow - I never thought of swirling with pointy brass tool, only used stringer, must have a go.
I'm stuck in work though, just like you Sabine, and by the time I get home will have forgotten what it was I was going to try ::)
Snap! Memory like a fish me!
Hmmmm.... well I can only explain what I do (which may meet with shouts of "oh no!" ;D ;D ;D)
I melt the area to molten, remove from flame, apply the tool which is made hot by the glass, leave for a second, as glass and tool cools I twist as I remove - just a little flick of the wrist. Et voila! When swirling, I make the area a lot hotter than when I'm plunging. Anyway, have a play and see what you think. This doesn't work with my tungsten proddy tool.
Quote from: Redhotsal on August 05, 2008, 09:03:55 PM
NEVER put any steel tools directly in the flame. This will KILL them.
To use any steel tools like your stainless steel pick or dental picks heat up the bead, take it out of the heat and then use the tool. This way the tool won't stick to the bead and your ends won't go black. If you tool doesn't make enough impression you'll need to reheat your glass but resist the temptation to poke, prod or rake while in the flame, and then your tools will last forever.
Tungsten is the only metal which won't stick to the glass - and a tungsten pick is brill for making holes in things, but you can manage without. Keep a jamjar of water nearby to quench your tools if they get too hot.
Thanks for that! I wish I'd known before I wasted a couple. I had actually figured to keep them out of the flame by the third dental pick! ;D But I did like raking in the flame - maybe I should get a tungsten one?