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Title: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 09:57:40 AM
need advice on insulation.... please!!  ;D
Weve discussed loads of options, polystyreene sheets, hay, foam, and the ones on the roll,
what did you use ?
how much it cost etc?
make model and whats the cheapest option?
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Pam on March 27, 2008, 10:10:17 AM
My husband works at a builders merchant so we got stuff at discount but we did the following
Walls---polystyrene then MDF sheets and hust painted
Ceiling- Kingspan (a type of dense foam/polystyrene which is covered in a layer of foil to make it waterproof, great stuff. The ceiling then had MDF and was painted
Floor-Kingspan again and hardboard this time which we then tiled with the cheapest tiles money can buy.
Fairly toasty in the winter, just use a small convector heater.
Stable door to help with ventilation although I do have a cooker hood type extractor.
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 10:23:12 AM
Thanks Pam  ;D
mmm isnt MDF expensive? is it chaper than plasterboard/plyboard?
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Pam on March 27, 2008, 10:38:12 AM
Guess it might be a tad more expensive but hubby worked out it was far quicker and less mess, hates plaster dust. Painting MDF requires no prep  :)
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
After we put the outside wall of the shed up we pinned bubble wrap onto it then put on the internal value cladding...no expense spared here ;D
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 10:48:53 AM
Ok, just looking online for MDF whats the biggests size you can buy?
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
After we put the outside wall of the shed up we pinned bubble wrap onto it then put on the internal value cladding...no expense spared here ;D
i even hought of bubblewrap, but thats expensive to i think lol
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Pam on March 27, 2008, 10:53:29 AM
We bought 8' x 4'
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 11:02:36 AM
thanks pam  ;)
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: bubblefizz on March 27, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
After we put the outside wall of the shed up we pinned bubble wrap onto it then put on the internal value cladding...no expense spared here ;D
i even hought of bubblewrap, but thats expensive to i think lol

its free when people deliver things wrapped in it ;)
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Kaz on March 27, 2008, 11:22:32 AM
Yes the more glass you buy from Martin the more bubble wrap you get - so a good reason for buying more glass I reckon!
Kaz
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Les on March 27, 2008, 11:23:59 AM
There is a wonderful kind of logic to that last statement !!!

:P
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 11:30:10 AM
 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: turnedlight on March 27, 2008, 11:31:26 AM
I'm going to order polystyrene and hardboard, and paint it.  :)
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Juniper on March 27, 2008, 11:42:20 AM
Just wondering - isn't polystyrene a bit too flammable ???

I'd go for mineralwool and plasterboard (just for safety reasons)
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: turnedlight on March 27, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
I don't think the polystyrene will be a risk when covered in hardboard, and anyway, the entire shed is flammable! I think mineral wool is very good, but it costs more..
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Donna@Rockin' Beads on March 27, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
I've got Fermacell panels in my studio - and loads left over too  :D
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: beadysam on March 27, 2008, 11:07:16 PM
If you are on a budget (who isn't?) dont forget to ask for the stuff you need on your local Freecycle group.  Reusing materials like this is recycling at its best, and people often give left over building materials and bubblewrap.  Find your local group here: www.freecycle.org

Just a question; would egg boxes be any good for insulation do you think?  I know they are good for soundproofing.  I just wondered because I get given loads because of having chickens and some of them are the really big boxes.  When I upgrade my shed this year, I just wondered if I could make use of them.....
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 11:57:22 PM
I think the problem with egg boxes is they might get damp ???
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Juniper on March 28, 2008, 06:57:22 AM
Quote from: beadysam on March 27, 2008, 11:07:16 PM

Just a question; would egg boxes be any good for insulation do you think?  I know they are good for soundproofing.  I just wondered because I get given loads because of having chickens and some of them are the really big boxes.  When I upgrade my shed this year, I just wondered if I could make use of them.....

The point in insulation is that you try to stop the air movement between two layers, but still have air in there. The amount of air pockets matters - thats why polystyrene and polyurethane are good, they have lots of tiny bubbles in them. Egg boxes have quite big air pockets, so to reach good insulation you'll end up with thick walls.

Quote from: Vicki on March 27, 2008, 11:57:22 PM
I think the problem with egg boxes is they might get damp ???

Sheds tend to be damp and in damp condition things start growing (like molds an bacteria) - so the question is - where have your egg boxes been in and what have been in them?
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Juniper on March 28, 2008, 07:20:26 AM
Quote from: turnedlight on March 27, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
I don't think the polystyrene will be a risk when covered in hardboard, and anyway, the entire shed is flammable! I think mineral wool is very good, but it costs more..

You are probably right. It's just the thought of burning polystyrene that rises my hear. My friend was hospitalized after setting fire on a roof with that stuff. She was lucky, her friend needed skin transplant after that.  :-\
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Katiequiggle on March 28, 2008, 07:57:04 AM
We used loft insulation the fibreglassy woolly stuff on a roll from B&Q and then put Conti board over the top which is painted.  Its lovely and warm once my heater has heated it up.
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 28, 2008, 05:50:33 PM
ok thought i would let you all know.....i bought some 100mm insulation and it was £38.99 from focus and its buy one get one FREE  ;D ;D
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Pam on March 28, 2008, 06:28:19 PM
Wow that was a bargin. Now you have £39 to spend on more glass.
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: bubblefizz on March 29, 2008, 10:50:23 AM
i wished pam LOL need to buy the plasterboard now  :-\ blimey it never ends does it lol
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: sea-thistle on March 29, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
I used polystyrene and mdf hardboard, So far shed dry!! ;D
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Lyn G on March 29, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
I haven't insulated my shed with anything.  The door is also left open slightly as well, as I have an extension lead coming into the shed.  I use a small convector heater and often have to turn it down as it gets really toasty warm in there.  I have been out there in all weathers since November (I do come back indoors occasionally!) and can honestly say that I have never found it too cold to work.

Perhaps insulation is nice, but isn't strictly necessary?
Title: Re: insulation?
Post by: Vicki on March 29, 2008, 09:53:25 PM
I just remembered, there is also a tarpaulin in the back wall of my shed, it was about it got used, the wind realy hits this wall & I have no draught there at all...although my husband was cursing it as he was screwing in the cladding ;D