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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Trudi on October 25, 2013, 10:56:57 PM

Title: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Trudi on October 25, 2013, 10:56:57 PM
Help ...

I've been using goldstone for ages with no problem .. but the past couple of weeks I've had issues!

I make a stringer - encasing it first, all looks lovely and sparkly. then I use it to make a bead, and parts of it just don't look very sparkly at all.

I've tried different batches
A few months ago I upgraded to a hotter torch, so I've made an effort to work it cooler and not expose the naked goldstone to the flame too much

but I'm still having the same issue  ... I can't figure it out at all.

???  ???  ???

Has anyone got any suggestions please?

Thanks
Trudi
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Lyn G on October 25, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
I have also had problems with goldstone.  I do think it varies in its sparkliness!  Some of the strips definitely look very matt and therefore don't produce much sparkle.  It also helps to melt it further out in the flame.....but if it's not very sparkly to start with, there's not much you can do about it.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Trudi on October 25, 2013, 11:13:43 PM
I've really never had this before .... but from the same stringer part will be very sparkling and some blugh ...

really confused!
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Trudi on October 25, 2013, 11:14:28 PM
Btw ... I'm pulling my own stringer from chunks
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Lyn G on October 25, 2013, 11:40:39 PM
Oh ok......I was talking in particular about the goldstone strips.  I haven't used the chunks for a while, but I don't remember having any problems with them.   ::)

Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Redhotsal on October 26, 2013, 12:05:53 AM
I have this problem too - it's a mystery to me!  :(
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Pegasus on October 26, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
YEP!
It is a bu**er for sure.

I have a collection of goldstone ribbons & also chunks and if you look carefully under very good lighting, you can see such a difference. It is as if the copper particles are different sizes, ie, the tiny particles don't seem to sparkle. Also I think that when the goldstone (chunks) are made, the copper particles settle unevenly, eg, some parts of the chunks have a lot of concentration of glittery particles & some have more clear glass & not so much copper. I have resorted to grading my goldstone ribbon into 3 categories, naff, ok & bling!!! I use the bling stuff in bigger, more expensive focal beads & the ok stuff more in small beads in sets. I have to admit I only get around 5 strips of bling stuff in about 10 bundles of ribbons, so it seems the good stuff is rare. Not much help I know but just my opinion!!
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Trudi on October 26, 2013, 09:58:29 AM
I thought I was going mad ... In over 6 years this is the first time I've had this problem!

Must be lucky then ... I thought it was something to do with the hotter torch!

Thanks for sharing x
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Redhotsal on October 26, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
Maybe it IS something to do with a hotter torch....  :-\
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Margram on October 26, 2013, 05:03:36 PM
Another thought - you haven't got new reading glasses Trudi? So that you can see the detail of the sparkliness better than before, I mean? ???

(We can't have you any less glittery, can we! ;))
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Trudi on October 26, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Lol Marg

I don't wear glasses!
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Margram on October 26, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: hatvary on November 02, 2013, 07:44:40 PM
Have the same problem :P have not continued because had a wrong prescribtion  >:( for my eyes that will probrably lead up to surgery as I now have the habit of seeing double. Before never had trouble but new batch of goldstone goes green.
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Margram on November 04, 2013, 11:50:51 AM
Oh no, Tina - hope you don't end up having to have surgery :(
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: Steampunkglass on November 04, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
At the risk of sounding like a total nutter and idiot (not that much ever stopped me doing that before ::)) .....

have you tried looking at the 'bleugh' areas under a really strong magnifying glass (or even a microscope if you can) to see if the flecks of metal in the goldstone are still there or if the hotter torch has caused them to change or even combine with the glass?  ??? ??? ???

It's a bit of a long shot but I wonder if the extra heat is altering the (if I remember right) copper particles in the goldstone?  ???
Title: Re: Problems with Goldstone
Post by: hatvary on November 09, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
Thanks Margram
Have an eye dr. now, the strengh of my glasses has been lowered in the hope that my vision will be better but it will never be the same as it was :-\
Warning for everyone that has glasses or contacts if  something doesn't feel right get a second opinion.