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Technical Forum => Studio/workspace/setup/equipment => Kilns => Topic started by: Beansprout on August 31, 2013, 09:33:18 PM

Title: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Beansprout on August 31, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
After pretty much every batch firing I do in my bead cube, all my beads tack together. I use a Denby ceramic dish.

Shall I try lowering the max temperature to about 510 or 500?

Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Trudi on August 31, 2013, 09:36:39 PM
How high are you going now?
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: flame n fuse on August 31, 2013, 09:40:53 PM
I find that both my kilns seem to work 'high'. So, yes, why not try reducing the temperature (and just try a few beads at first). (I work at about 490).
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Nikki on August 31, 2013, 10:13:46 PM
I thread my beads onto mandrels kebab style and have no problem, is the little temp thingy (very technical) moved it should stick out towards the centre of the kiln
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: AnnaSpanna on September 01, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
I've batch annealed in a bead cube before and I just spread the beads out directly on the floor so they didn't touch each other. I would recommend loading up some skewers (old bent mandrels work well - just bend up an end so the beads don't slide off) and prop them like you would normal mandrels when garaging. Don't go above 520.
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: helbels on September 01, 2013, 11:13:05 AM
I garage at 490 and ramp up to 520 to anneal.
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Essex Girl on September 01, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
After similar problems with my kiln (and SC2) and after advice by Paragon, I have had to reduce the programs by 30C to stop the beads sticking. 
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: cbeadies on September 01, 2013, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: Nikki on August 31, 2013, 10:13:46 PM
I thread my beads onto mandrels kebab style and have no problem, is the little temp thingy (very technical) moved it should stick out towards the centre of the kiln


I don't have any problems with my bead cube, I just use the settings that it was pre-programmed with and it anneals at 520 degrees.
Do check that the little metal temperature tube is inserted correctly at the back of the kiln, I noticed that mine had slipped once or twice so I always check it now before putting the kiln on.
Hope things get sorted.  :)
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: flame n fuse on September 01, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
if the beads are sticking together then the kiln is running hotter than it says it is - a common problem. Suggest you try setting a different max temp of about 20 - 30 degrees less and lower the rest of the programme similarly.
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Beansprout on September 01, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
Thanks all- I'll check the program to see what the max temp is.

I don't make bead-beads, I do off mandrel stuff so I cannae put it on skewers, hence the ceramic pot!

Is the annealing temp 480? Just double checking so that I don't reduce it lower than that!
Title: Re: Batch Anneal tacky beads in Bead Cube
Post by: Beansprout on September 04, 2013, 08:05:35 PM
Changed top temp to 510 and changed the soak time to something less ( I can't remember), I also changed the point that it turns the power off, I think it was 250, I changed it to 300 or 350. Just to get my beads out a bit earlier!