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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 07:57:25 PM

Title: Black and White.......CIM PEACE and HADES....PHOTOS UP!
Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
Hi Guys, I am in the middle of making a big bead necklace for someone and I usually use Reinenbach intense black and Effetre 204 White now don't ask me why I had a brainstorm at FO and bought 208 White which has shocked all over my studio and I have wasted 3 Rods can't even pull a stringer with it.  Tried heating it in the kiln first and introducing it everywhich way to every kind of flame and it is not having any of it.  I bought some from Tuffnells and some from Sean and both lots are behaving in the same way....IS IT ME  ??? ??? ???

I need to have clean lines so I think I am gonna have to bite the bullet and order more tomorrow......Tina suggested CIM PEACE.  Does anyone else have any thoughts?  My beads are big (the necklace is like the one I was wearing at FO) so the glass needs to be able to take alot of heat or prolonged heating.  I am way out of my comfort zone with Black and white only as I usually work with loads of colour!

Thank you Lovely people.....
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Post by: awrylemming on April 17, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
Peace and reichenbach deep black are fab together, heat well and should do the job no problem.  :-*
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Post by: SilverGems89 on April 17, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
CIM Peace is lovely Jennie, i haven't used any other white since i tried it!

If you want some i can spare you a bit?
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
Wow that was quick...thanks ladies...Thank you so much for the offer of some but I think I will need a fair bit so I will buy some....CIM PEACE it is!!
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Post by: SilverGems89 on April 17, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
Look forward to seeing the results  ;D
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 08:31:16 PM
Now Black Drama....Have 3 Rods of intense black and then I only have  Reinenbach Black does anyone know if that will web with CIM PEACE or can anyone tell me about Hades?  Tuffnells seem to have sold out of Intense Black!  Sorry to be a pain but I can't afford to buy untried!

If I ever get it finished I will definately post a photo!!
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Post by: Princess Peggy (Priscilla McGirr) on April 17, 2012, 08:34:46 PM
Hades seems fairly stable..I havn't used it with white though, but Kaz reckon's it's OK for murrini, so it must be fairly inert.
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Post by: chipperpottery on April 17, 2012, 08:35:47 PM
Photo please Jennie. ::)
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
Black and White what a Nightmare!!   Now why is Hades so B expensive.....I need to be sure it is stable with CIM PEACE.....Thank you Peggy it is not that I don't trust you!!  I just would love to hear from someone who has used both colours together as I can't afford to buy Hades and find it is not compatible at a £10.35 a quarter kilo a throw!   ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: Kaz on April 17, 2012, 08:49:19 PM
Deep black most reliable!
Soft white.....cockney rhyming slang!!!
Kazx
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 17, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
Hoooray!  Thank you girls YOU ROCK!......I have Deep Black so I will rush off and buy some CIM PEACE......


Kaz you BAD girl wash your mouth out!!  I have half a kilo of popcorn soft white......GREAT!!!  Maybe I will make a sculpture with it like this Shayna Leib does:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=364799326905906&set=a.235976486454858.80492.229291083790065&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=364799326905906&set=a.235976486454858.80492.229291083790065&type=3&theater)

Actually her work is fantastic....Check her out on FB!

Title: Re: Black and White.......CIM PEACE and HADES....help needed!! and recieved!!!
Post by: Redhotsal on April 17, 2012, 11:04:36 PM
Nice sculptures!
@Kaz - quite right!  ;)

Actually - I think "Soft White" may possibly actually be Anice white. A few years ago I swear this glass was as rare as hen's teeth. I even remember there being fights about getting it in the US. Seems a bit odd that they're now flogging it off as white.
If it is Anice (and not some kind of Alabaster) then it's really nothing like White but it does do some REALLY funky things. Try laying stringers of it over black and you'll get a purple keyline running through the stringer. (Actually - try that anyway - to check whether you have Anice). If it is Anice you have then you can do cool things like this with it:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84692

So, if it is Anice - then you have a really cool new addition to your stash. If it is an alabaster you have a really shocky not very useful wodge of soda lime.

Yes, it IS always shocky!
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Post by: SilverGems89 on April 18, 2012, 05:52:27 AM
I had a few rods of anice white when i first started lampworking and they were very well behaved, hardly shocked at all....must have been lucky!
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Post by: awrylemming on April 18, 2012, 07:43:17 AM
I liked the effects that Anice white can give, but that stuff is so shocky I just got bored waiting to even pull a stringer.  Even on a hothead it's like heating popcorn!
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Post by: jammie on April 18, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
I like it too, but hate the shockiness, it's nice with a transparent colour over it, but a pain in the bum for exploding.
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 18, 2012, 09:10:56 AM
Quote from: Special Kay on April 17, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Peace and deep black for me, not used eff. white or black for ages. you dont get any webbing, stays crisp and doesnt suck up either colour. Also got 15 8-10mm of 006 for you.

Kay in my black and White drama I missed the end of your post thank you....pm me and let me know what you want in return x that is fab news!!
Title: Re: Black and White.......CIM PEACE and HADES....help needed!! and recieved!!!
Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 18, 2012, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: Redhotsal on April 17, 2012, 11:04:36 PM

Actually - I think "Soft White" may possibly actually be Anice white.

So, if it is Anice - then you have a really cool new addition to your stash. If it is an alabaster you have a really shocky not very useful wodge of soda lime.

Yes, it IS always shocky!

Thanks Sal I will try that and thanks Sue (lemming) just realised you suggested the deep black/peace combo earlier in the thread.....I love this forum.....THANK YOU 

Just checked out Wet Canvas and those fuming fx on Anise look fab Sal, u have got me excited about a glass I was beginning to hate!  Guess who will be getting her fuming kit out today!!!
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Post by: Lotti on April 18, 2012, 09:51:31 AM
OOh, I quite like anice white, but still have alot to learn with it.  Looking forward to piccies of you necklace Jennie.  ;D
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 21, 2012, 07:49:21 PM
Here Tis!!  Big beads if you imagine that the ball chain is 3.2mm that will give you some idea of size!!  Thank you so much for everybody's help.......Peace and Intense black it is!!


(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab94/RASPBERRYRINGS/P4210001.jpg)  (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab94/RASPBERRYRINGS/P4210005.jpg)  (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab94/RASPBERRYRINGS/P4210002.jpg)
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Post by: helbels on April 21, 2012, 07:52:07 PM
Those are just awesome Jennie  :o :o :o
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Post by: awrylemming on April 21, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
Wonderful - it's a fab glass combination that I use almost daily and have found it infallible (so far  :o)  - those are lovely beads. loving the teeny tiny penguin and the massive selection of patterns, really wonderful.
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Post by: Emerald on April 21, 2012, 08:16:09 PM
those are really lovely Jennie

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Post by: Corinne Lacy on April 21, 2012, 08:26:32 PM
Absolutely amazing.......equal to the necklace you were wearing at Flame Off.....myself and friends weren't really stalking you there, even though we made you take ' that ' necklace off to have a look !!!

Corinne
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Post by: Hazel on April 21, 2012, 08:36:01 PM
Wow Jennie - those are just stunning! Thankyou for showing them to us.
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 21, 2012, 08:41:11 PM
Thank you............................
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Post by: Dragonfire Glass on April 21, 2012, 08:49:28 PM
delightful Jennie  ;D
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Post by: Jolene on April 21, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Completely gorgeous beads Jennie, the penguin is very cute.
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Post by: justjules on April 21, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
another stunner Jennie!
;D
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Post by: nuttybeader on April 21, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
Stunning beads, as always.  The penguin was soo cute.
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Post by: JanT on April 21, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
Gorgeous beads, love the penguin
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Post by: Dee Dee on April 22, 2012, 01:08:06 AM
Just fantastic Jennie! ;D
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Post by: GaysieMay on April 22, 2012, 07:43:52 AM
Beautiful beads Jennie, I loved your FO necklace and this is another stunner!  :)
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Post by: Kaz on April 22, 2012, 07:45:04 AM
Incredible work as always 8)
Kazx
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Post by: jammie on April 22, 2012, 07:47:04 AM
Beautiful!  :)
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Post by: chipperpottery on April 22, 2012, 08:10:28 AM
Stunning Jennie.
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Post by: Pat from Canvey on April 22, 2012, 08:22:16 AM
Only just noticed the penguin sneeking into the third picture. Beautiful beads.
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Post by: Jennie Lamb on April 22, 2012, 08:52:57 AM
Wow thank you so much for all your lovely comments x