Where did you get your propane regulator from? because i'm having a hard time locating a 4bar one, they're all 37mbar, and no matter how many times I say i need it to have a higher pressure than that some man or another assures me they've been in the business 25 years and have never heard of something so crazy.
Please tell me before I go on a mass murdering rampage accross all the hardware stores in my area.
:)
We got ours from Martin at Tuffnells but it was in a kit
Yeah I've seen that Martin does them, and I would have ordered one a week ago but for my father, and now I want one right this second, but i might just have to be patient!
:(
The thing about ordering from Martin is that it is definitely the right one.
the 37milibar one will be absolutely fine for a torch plus oxycon setup - we use them in the studio because they are soooooo much cheaper and simpler than the bigger ones...
the limiting factor on a torch running an oxycon is the oxygen - never the propane...
anyone else using the basic ones?...
8)
I got mine from a local welding shop .... I was surprised at how helpful and non-condescending he was .... :)
I only have a HH at the minute though Q, although I haven't tried this reg yet, going to wait until my dad comes home.
It ws my local welding shop which told me they didn't exist! It doesn't really matter if I have to wait a few more days, but I was so up for some torching today.
oh okay, we have some spare from when we still had the hothead and stuff...
we also found a local welding shop that stocked everything including quick disconnects and oxygen regulators etc... they also made up hoses for us which was really great!!..
;D 8)
Rub it in why don't you! :P
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Hi, the reason you can't find a 4bar regulator is because that is the working pressure of the gas cylinder what you actually need is a propane bottle connector which is just a straight through connector these are usually supplied with commercial blowlamps ( the guys in the welding place shoud have known this ::) ) try places like tool hire companys, I have a web address somewhere that does them I'll get back to you when I find it.
Mike ( retd gas engineer )
Found it :o http://www.bes.co.uk/ loads of stuff but look at high pressure regulators about 2nd or third down
Good hunting Mike
I got all my bits from here http://www.chorleybottlegas.co.uk/.
I actually telephoned them because I was confused about what to order, and they were ever so helpful, and not in the last bit patronising. They sell on Ebay too http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Chorley-Bottle-Gas
I saved quite a lot of money. The stuff arrived the next day, and they kept the postage at cost.
thanks guys
:)
does it matter how big your baottle is, as to what regulator you can fit, because looking at the link mike gave me (thanks) they say 8 kg propane high pressure regulator, and my bottle is 6kg (i think)
So do i need to go and get a different bottle of gas??
Quote from: annasjewellerybox on September 07, 2007, 05:30:46 PM
does it matter how big your baottle is, as to what regulator you can fit, because looking at the link mike gave me (thanks) they say 8 kg propane high pressure regulator, and my bottle is 6kg (i think)
So do i need to go and get a different bottle of gas??
No it shouldn't make much difference but check with them before/if you order just to make sure ;)
Mike
Quote from: Bumpy Beads on September 07, 2007, 05:20:02 PM
I got all my bits from here http://www.chorleybottlegas.co.uk/.
I actually telephoned them because I was confused about what to order, and they were ever so helpful, and not in the last bit patronising. They sell on Ebay too http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Chorley-Bottle-Gas
I saved quite a lot of money. The stuff arrived the next day, and they kept the postage at cost.
Heather, you don't know how pleased I am that you posted this - I'm off to Chorley Bottle Gas tomorrow to ask them about all this... they're only about 5 minutes from my house :)
Great to know they should know about this already! I'm a little less concerned about not knowing what I'm talking about now ;)
Cheers,
Janie
Thanks Mike, you're a star.
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No problem Anna I'm pleased to help anytime 8)
Mike ;D
Hi all...
I have to admit, after a rather confusing time at Chorley Bottle Gas, I'm still a bit in the dark :/
I've come away with a 0-4 bar regulator, a piece of 0.25 inch rubber hose and had to buy the adaptor for the Hothead from Tuffnells.
The bloke at CBG had to warm the end of the 0.25 hose in hot water in order to get the regulator in and said he wasn't sure how secure it was. The adaptor arrived this morning and although my caliper says the widest part of it is 0.25 inches, I can't for the life of me get it into the tube and think I'll have to do the same with the warm water.
However, all this and a bit of reading around has left me wondering if I should have a larger tube? What sort of size do I actually need?
I'd really appreciate some help with this - the last thing I need is to make my house disappear with a loud "kaboom!" ::)
Thanks in advance :)
Cheers,
Janie
i'm not sure about the size of the hose you need (as you can see i'm struggling too) but all my connections are secured with jubilee clips, if that's any help
:)
Quote from: annasjewellerybox on September 11, 2007, 03:08:37 PM
i'm not sure about the size of the hose you need (as you can see i'm struggling too) but all my connections are secured with jubilee clips, if that's any help
Yeh, I have jubilee clips too... the bloke said something about that hose not being able to supply the correct pressure but he connected the regulator to it anyway... had a heck of a time doing it and then didn't seem to happy about it...
It's all very confusing, isn't it? :)
Cheers,
Janie
i know. i am confused!
i am still waiting for my regulator to come (hopefully in the next day or two) and then for my father to come back from holiday to hekp me set up.
the link which mike (bluebottle) provided sells hose for high pressure propane, if the other hose is making it difficult to light the torch or melt the glass.
;D
I don't think you should have jubilee clips on propane hoses. Martin's set comes all crimped together, and he does the "o" rings to do it yourself - he sent some with my quick connects. It was very hard to get the quick connects into the hose, sounds like the same struggle you had, so that is probably right enough.
I think the main thing to watch about the hose, is that acetylene hoses get "eaten" by propane over time, you need to get t-rated (I think!) hose.
If you don't have a crimping tool then you have to use jubilee clips as 4 bar is extremely high pressure, and at this type of pressure you have to use high pressure propane hose which has a small bore and thick sides ( to withstand the pressure) also don't rely on hand tightening connections as you will never make it gas tight without tools
Mike ;D
Quote from: Bluebottle on September 11, 2007, 05:28:26 PM
If you don't have a crimping tool then you have to use jubilee clips as 4 bar is extremely high pressure, and at this type of pressure you have to use high pressure propane hose which has a small bore and thick sides ( to withstand the pressure) also don't rely on hand tightening connections as you will never make it gas tight without tools
Thanks for the advice, Mike :)
I don't have great strength in my hands so would always tighten the connections with an electric screwdriver anyway...
So is the 0.25 inch rubber hosing I have too thin then?
Cheers,
Janie
Hi Janie, where are you measuring the tube?? as a rough guide the tube should be about .25" bore and about .125" for the walls. The link I gave to Anna has the correct type if you are not sure 8)
Mike ;D
Hi Mike,
I was measuring the inner bore of the tube.. I have it and my digital calipers here... been finding out how difficult it is to measure a non-solid pipe with these things ;)
Anyway, I get:
Inner bore: 0.22"
Walls: 0.135"
Full width: 0.46"
From what you said, I think this should be OK?
Cheers,
Janie
I would ring Martin & ask him.
There is a problem using jubilee clips on hoses - I think they were replaced with O rings and you are no longer allowed to use jubilee clips.
i'm pretty sure that I have the correct stuff (probably just don't know what anything is called), i trust my dad (most of the time) he deals with gas in his work.
:)
Quote from: TheJanie on September 11, 2007, 09:43:54 PM
Hi Mike,
I was measuring the inner bore of the tube.. I have it and my digital calipers here... been finding out how difficult it is to measure a non-solid pipe with these things ;)
Anyway, I get:
Inner bore: 0.22"
Walls: 0.135"
Full width: 0.46"
From what you said, I think this should be OK?
Cheers,
Janie
Sounds OK Janie, as regards clips ask at your local LPG supplier or on the link I provided there must be a screw type clip available.
Mike
PS BES have "jubilee" or crimp type clips here page 65 http://www.bes.co.uk/ so they should be OK