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Lampwork => Common Problems => Topic started by: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 01:13:00 PM

Title: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
Has anybody ever had their quick release come apart, jetting propane all over their feet?  Cos I have today!  I put it together as normal and pushed it until it clicked, and then my son always pushes it a second time as he doesn't trust my arthritic hands  ::) ;D  So, a couple of hours into torching and it bursts apart, mid flaming murrini (good thing I put the kiln on!).  It was definitely connected properly, so do these things ever fail?  They must be under huge amounts of pressure.  :-\  And how long would you wait before lighting the torch again, doors and windows are open and ventilation is on?
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: sarah t on February 26, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
no idea but sounds like it must have made you jump a mile
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Alison G on February 26, 2012, 04:11:40 PM
Never! I don't know if I have one but if I do I'll be eyeing it suspiciously from now on! Poor you.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 04:42:56 PM
I had ruddy cold feet, I know that much!  Yep, it scared the hell out of me, I think I'll phone Martin on Monday and ask him about it.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Blue Box Studio on February 26, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
My god, scary!  Did the hose come away from the fixings, or the fixings come apart?  I don't have quick release fittings but would have (naively) assumed that if part A comes away from part B that there was a seal to stop gas escaping.  But then if your hose comes off the fittings ....  Hope you are OK, if a little cold.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Alison G on February 26, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Nope I don't have one. Be careful!
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: dangerousbead on February 26, 2012, 09:30:55 PM
My quick release needs to be tested each time I connect it. Sometimes it doesn't push home properly and will easily pull apart. It needs to be pushed in and twisted then pulled. It shouldn't pull apart. I think the bearings can sometimes stick inwards. If that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Magpie on February 26, 2012, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: Blue Box Studio on February 26, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
I don't have quick release fittings but would have (naively) assumed that if part A comes away from part B that there was a seal to stop gas escaping.

Not naive, if the quick release comes apart it should cut off and not let any more gas escape. If gas is still coming out you have some sort of failure there. You can check by connecting it, turing the gas on at the cylinder, off at the torch and disconnect it. Shouldn't be any gas release apart from the initial hiss of the stuff in the pipes being vented.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 10:16:56 PM
There is a problem - obviously the seal isn't happening, so it looks like it needs to be replaced which is a bit of a pain, and not something I'd expect of a piece of equipment that is a year old.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: sea-thistle on February 26, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
Blimey that was frightening I bet! :o
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 11:37:59 PM
Yep - it wasn't a simple hissing of gas escaping, this was a pipe under pressure lashing around the room guffing propane all over the place.  Sheer luck that it wasn't worse I think.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Nick on February 26, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
you could try these suppliers

http://www.gasequipmentdirect.co.uk/Store/Product/QRNOZZ.aspx (http://www.gasequipmentdirect.co.uk/Store/Product/QRNOZZ.aspx)

or

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/8mm_Quick_Release_Gas_Hose_Coupling.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/8mm_Quick_Release_Gas_Hose_Coupling.html)

I have used Hamilton and they were very helpful when I rang them
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 27, 2012, 07:14:23 AM
Thanks Nick - I'll have  a word with my original supplier first though  :)
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Kalorlo on February 28, 2012, 10:17:24 AM
Just one thing: if you have the 6mm hose from Martin, the 8mm quick releases from Hamilton won't fit it. (I tried for quite some time!)
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 28, 2012, 10:48:08 AM
Nope, mines all Tuffers and Martin has offered to replace it.  Unfortunately that means my having to pay a second time in a year to have it removed and replaced, as my disability prevents my doing it myself, so it won't be getting done any time soon.  It will have to be a gaffer tape job for now!
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Hotglass28 on February 28, 2012, 02:07:57 PM

My gasarc one stopped working but never popped apart. I got into a huge strop and bought a cheap one from ebay. Touch wood it didn't give me any problems.

The gasarc ones look over complicated to me. That might be just me?

Must of made you jump a mile.  I kept my quick release on the outside side, of the doors in the dinning room.  I think I will keep that in mind when I set again, just incase.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on February 28, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
I think I will definitely test mine in the future, and would definitely recommend that anybody else does the same when setting up.  If my son hadn't been there to pin down the hose, it could easily have ended up pumping propane towards the lit torch  :o
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: tomcat on February 28, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
'interesting' things happen to you - in the manner of the Chinese curse that is  ;D

Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: kerensky on March 12, 2012, 08:36:13 AM
Crikey - that must have been one horrible experience, glad to hear that you are ok.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: chipperpottery on March 12, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
As long as you are o'k Sue.
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: sarah t on March 12, 2012, 10:04:39 AM
unless you really need one sounds like more trouble than they are worth especially if they dont actually stop the gas from whooshing into the shed !
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Helen G on March 12, 2012, 01:43:33 PM
Quote from: awrylemming on February 26, 2012, 11:37:59 PM
Yep - it wasn't a simple hissing of gas escaping, this was a pipe under pressure lashing around the room guffing propane all over the place.  Sheer luck that it wasn't worse I think.

I've had that but with a flame on the end of the pipe :o :o!!! It was in my silversmithing days - learnt my lesson BIG TIME  :-[ :-[ Is gaffer tape going to do the job Su? Not sure I'd want to put faith in that  ;)
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: awrylemming on March 12, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
Nope, I have no faith in that whatsoever!  The lovely Jolene is going to help me with this, once I get the replacement part  ;D
Title: Re: Quick release problem?
Post by: Helen G on March 12, 2012, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: awrylemming on March 12, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
Nope, I have no faith in that whatsoever!  The lovely Jolene is going to help me with this, once I get the replacement part  ;D

Brilliant  ;)