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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Shirl on July 20, 2011, 10:37:56 PM

Title: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 20, 2011, 10:37:56 PM
I bought some Rich. pearl biege and made a couple of tester beads and cooled them in bubbles. They were a lovely pale colour.
After annealing they were a dark mink colour!

I made 2 more beads and put them straight in the kiln, and they too ended up much darker, like a mink colour!

Is this supposed to happen with the pearl biege?
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Madam Steph on July 20, 2011, 10:41:46 PM
Happened to me last week, Shirl.
I have a set of streakies ranging from pale pearly to dark honey-ish.
They look nice though
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: awrylemming on July 20, 2011, 11:05:03 PM
Mine are always the same coming out as going in?  Sorry hon, I'd love to be able to help.  Perhaps it's something to do with your flame chemistry?
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Blue Box Studio on July 20, 2011, 11:10:22 PM
I bought some of this at FO but only tried it last week.  I've used nearly all of it and not had that happen to me.  I think it is a new favourite for me.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: jammie on July 20, 2011, 11:43:18 PM
Nope not happened to me either, always a pearly biege.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Mand on July 21, 2011, 05:06:52 PM
Nope me neither, used mine this week, goes in and comes out the same colour when annealed.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 21, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
I only bought mine a couple of weeks ago....wonder if its a rogue batch?

I really wanted the pale biege as its gorgeous so am feeling a tad dissapointed :(
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: awrylemming on July 21, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
I'm working on a batch I bought around the same time Shirl - and no problems.  Are you coming to the end of your propane perhaps?
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Madam Steph on July 21, 2011, 08:28:56 PM
Must be same batch/time as I bought mine.
As much as I like the streaky effect, I bought mine on the strength of Jeannie's lovely beads with the blue murrini (shown some 3/4 wks back, I think).
None of my beads came anywhere near to the lovely colour she achieved with her Pearl Beige  :(
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 21, 2011, 09:07:51 PM
No....I am not near the end of my propane, only had a new bottle on a few weeks ago.

What puzzles me is that is was a lovely pale colour after cooling in the bubbles. It went into the kiln a few days later and came mink, quite a nice clour but I didnt really want mink.

I have just made another little pearl to test again and put it in the bubbles, it looks really pale up to now.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Madam Steph on July 21, 2011, 09:36:14 PM
I've been puzzling over this all day....
What sort of beads are you making with the beige?
I have been wondering in my case if I had 'overworked' the delicate colour.
I made my set with a ridged bead roller and it WAS the first week using my Cricket, so everything taken into consideration, in MY case I think it's me.
It's too late tonight now, but tomorrow after work, I'm going to get the Pearl Beige out again.
The possibilities are too great to let it beat me.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 21, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
I just made 2 small test beads with no other colours, and I also made 2 simple BHB with 3 little surface flowers, nothing fancy.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: awrylemming on July 21, 2011, 10:15:28 PM
Something to do with your kiln?  Do you use activated charcoal?  Was there silver glass in the kiln too?  I'm not sure if these things would make a difference with this glass, you may need to do a bit of experimenting  ???
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 22, 2011, 12:50:48 AM
There was activated charcoal and silver glass with the first one on the batch anneal

The second ones that were put straight in the kiln there was no charcoal and perhaps some silver glass.


I just looked at the one I made tonight, its just out of the bubbles and a beautiful creamy colour.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: awrylemming on July 22, 2011, 07:45:25 AM
Send it to me and I'll anneal it for you?  And then you'll know where the problem lies  :)
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 22, 2011, 09:27:56 AM
Thanks Sue I will take you up on your offer.
I will make 2 small beads together on the same mandrel and put one in my kiln, and let you have the other then we will know for sure  :)
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: julieHB on July 22, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
I wonder if there's a chance it's silver fumes that have caused it to darken.

At what temperature do you anneal? I would certainly try to anneal with no silver glass in the kiln at the same time.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: awrylemming on July 22, 2011, 09:54:07 AM
Well you know my address Shirl, pop it in the post and I'll batch it with my non silver beads - I always do them separately, as I had problems with pinks fuming in the kiln.
Title: Re: pearl biege help.
Post by: Shirl on July 22, 2011, 10:10:18 AM
Thanks Sue.

I will take advice and anneal my silver glass separately from now on. :)