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Technical Forum => Studio/workspace/setup/equipment => Ventilation => Topic started by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM

Title: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Honest to god, I set it up by myself in ten minutes, how easy is that?

I bought this fan
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_3244.html

Its resting on a little stool in front of my torch with the sucky in hole facing me and the sucky out hole facing to the right.


I bought this ducting
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_1289.html and this clip http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_350.html

I fed the mains lead down the back of my table to the sockets that the oxycon and kiln plug into, smooshed the ducting onto the sucky out hole and whizzed the clip onto it to hold it in place.

The ducting feeds down the gap at the back of the table and out the cat flap which is in the back door beside me, its strong enough to suck the nipples off a stripper and has more than passed the joss stick test.

No drilling, no fixing, perfect for a tight corner...........so glad I finally got this sorted and its so simple.
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Post by: SilverGems89 on November 11, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
Quote from: Tan on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
its strong enough to suck the nipples off a stripper and has more than passed the joss stick test.

Oh Tan i just about wee'd my pants!  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 11, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
HOnest to god, its that strong. It still has all five metres of ducting on it and the whole lot whips around like a wild willy when its on full suction unless its jammed out the cat flap and even now I'm sure there is going to be a THWONK one day and then some plaintive meows as one of the cats is inadvertently sucked up there :o
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Post by: The Tartan Trout on November 11, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
I have pictures of your poor cats bum and back legs thrashing around stuck at the end of the tube ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: hollergrafik on November 11, 2010, 08:52:35 PM
Same set up as I have, I have mine in front of my torch and it passed a Gas Safe smoke pellet test my friend did. Brilliant bit of kit.
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 11, 2010, 08:56:27 PM
It's so easy to set up as well isn't it Kay? I did it by myself and had no problems
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Post by: Tills on November 11, 2010, 08:58:04 PM
a way with words... lol...  :o

and me too, I have this set up, works perfectly I sling the pipe out the window, (which a magpie took a liking too the other day and tried to tug it away!)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: hollergrafik on November 11, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
I added a foot switch to my wire, just sit down and press it with my foot, it's a rocker switch for a lamp. My gas man said it had a better draw than a full sized chimney.
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: hollergrafik on November 11, 2010, 09:05:04 PM
Here's mine
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/5001227461_31f8da61fd.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kays-beads/5001227461/)
studio2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kays-beads/5001227461/) by Kays Beads (http://www.flickr.com/people/kays-beads/), on Flickr
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Post by: Tills on November 11, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
*drool* - not looking at ventilation - I want that pink kiln  ;D
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Post by: julieHB on November 11, 2010, 09:20:50 PM
I think I need that fan!!! x
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Post by: hollergrafik on November 11, 2010, 09:25:15 PM
It's brill Julie, get one.
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Post by: awrylemming on November 11, 2010, 10:02:23 PM
I sat and cried laughing reading this thread - and it's really informative too  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Funky Cow on November 11, 2010, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: Tan on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
...its strong enough to suck the nipples off a stripper

ROFL  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: mizgeorge on November 11, 2010, 10:16:23 PM
How noisy is it?
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Trudi on November 11, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: Funky Cow on November 11, 2010, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: Tan on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
...its strong enough to suck the nipples off a stripper

ROFL  ;D ;D ;D

Said in true Tan style!

I have the same set up - it does make a little noise but it's not bad - and for me was no where near as annoying as my hot head!
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Trudi on November 11, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
PS  - can I add that I didn't try to suck anyones nippes off - I stuck with the more trdtional test of the incense cone! :)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 12, 2010, 03:22:09 PM
George it is much quieter than I anticipated, its up against my dividing wall from my neighbours and there is no way they would ever hear it, in easy terms I would say its not as noisy as a hairdryer.

Phone me up and I will turn it on for you to listen to if you like?
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Trudi on November 12, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: Tan on November 12, 2010, 03:22:09 PM
George it is much quieter than I anticipated, its up against my dividing wall from my neighbours and there is no way they would ever hear it, in easy terms I would say its not as noisy as a hairdryer.

Phone me up and I will turn it on for you to listen to if you like?

Now that's a smart idea!
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Blue Box Studio on November 12, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
My daft question is how far is your end of the torch from the progrow fan?  My HH is on a piece of kitchen worktop so the end of the torch is only about 50cms from the wall.  Thinking my Plan B kitchen extractor fan won't stay the course, the fins catch when things get really hot, I'm thinking I might need to start saving for a progrow fan - which is plan c on my list anyway.  I don't want it to be too close so it moves the flame about (if such a thing happens).  I suppose the fan could fit into the hole in my wall, about 5' off the greound and the hose hang down to the flame, sort of elephant trunk style, but not sure what difference that'd make either. 
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 12, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
The end of my torch is 14 inches away from the sucky in bit but the sucky in bit is just above the flame, so it still does the sucky in thing but should'nt get too hot. THe unit sits flush against the wall and from the back of the unit to the very front of the sucky bit is ten inches.

It doesn't affect the flame in any way. The fins in these fans are metal although they are insulated with polystyrene so don't be poking around in there with naked flames or anything..
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Post by: cbeadies on November 12, 2010, 05:26:04 PM
My set-up looks like this now - sorry, a bit messy, I am planning a tidy-up tomorrow!
I added a progrow 'reducer' and clamp to make a kind of funnel. The polystyrene bit in the fan doesn't get hot even though it is fairly near the torch but I did keep checking when I first set it up. I don't really find it noisy, there is some noise but, being on a hothead, I think the torch noise is worse!

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx292/cbeadies/DSCF1369.jpg)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Blue Box Studio on November 12, 2010, 05:54:06 PM
Thanks.  Oh that'll be ok on my set up then.  Once this fan dies (the way my day is going, I'll not try it tonight!!!!!) I'll have to spend on a progrow.
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Post by: garishglobes on November 12, 2010, 08:42:12 PM
Ahhhhh.... I'd been a bit envious of you with your stripper nipples and waving willies, have been wondering why I didn't have any! Now I know - my fan is a bit further from the torch end than 14 inches.  Will have to move it closer!  ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on November 12, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
Babe you are sooo missing out ;)
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Post by: julieHB on November 12, 2010, 10:46:39 PM
You two create very disturbing images in my mind!!!  :D
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Post by: Fruddy on November 13, 2010, 10:47:33 AM
Quote from: Trudi on November 11, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
PS  - can I add that I didn't try to suck anyones nippes off - I stuck with the more trdtional test of the incense cone! :)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: puffin on November 21, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
14 inches ehhhh now I would like one of those !!!!!!

Gonna have to invest in one of these babies  :P no more shoes for the time being
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Post by: Shirl on November 21, 2010, 04:33:45 PM
You lot crack me up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Trudi on November 21, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
Quote from: puffin on November 21, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
14 inches ehhhh now I would like one of those !!!!!!

Gonna have to invest in one of these babies  :P no more shoes for the time being

Ah but as you're not been able to wear all your shoes - all your old ones will seem like new anyway!!!
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Scubeadoo on November 22, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Looks good - I need a ventilation system, but given the number of cannabis factories the boys in blue have been discovering round here (south east Essex) I'm a bit worried that ordering hydroponics equipment may be inviting a raid :o
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: awrylemming on November 22, 2010, 11:22:45 PM
Quote from: Scubeadoo on November 22, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Looks good - I need a ventilation system, but given the number of cannabis factories the boys in blue have been discovering round here (south east Essex) I'm a bit worried that ordering hydroponics equipment may be inviting a raid :o

No need to worry, unless you've 50 pigeons warming their tootsies on your roof?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Blue Box Studio on November 22, 2010, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: Scubeadoo on November 22, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Looks good - I need a ventilation system, but given the number of cannabis factories the boys in blue have been discovering round here (south east Essex) I'm a bit worried that ordering hydroponics equipment may be inviting a raid :o

I wondered about that, then decided it would be a bit of a giggle so long as I get to the door before they smash it down.  They don't react very quickly, friends complained for months to the council that there was a funny smell coming from next door, there were never any lights on yet someone came and left each day.   Then the BiB amble round at snails pace, kick the door in and find one of the biggest cannibis factories ever found in the west country. Imagine their faces if they ambled down my garden path to find me making beads in the shedio.  It's nearly Christmas, you might be able to sell a few late presents?

A quick dash round my house and anyone with half a brain would realise I can't keep plants - my money tree is looking parched, the aloe vera is quite brown and the Christmas cactus is dead.  Do you think they'd turn over the front garden for me if I hinted at what might be buried under?  It needs doing and I can't afford Mr Muscle to do it for me; there is lots of interest, mostly (bind)weed and a bit of (couch) grass.

It's not warm enouigh in there for pidgeons to warm their tootsies on the roof.

Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Krysia@No98 on November 23, 2010, 03:49:00 PM

I don't worry about the police even with the funny smells coming from next door.  I am on the ground floor, they can just look through the window and see, should save the front door!

I have a progrow too, I love it.  This is mine  I have it going out of the air brick, saved making holes in the brick work or needing to open a window.

I also switch it on when I am soldering silver, dunno if it makes any difference  ::)

But here is my ventilation for my happy place

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/_Krysia_/P1010665.jpg) (gaud it looks sooo tidy!)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Scubeadoo on November 25, 2010, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: awrylemming on November 22, 2010, 11:22:45 PM
Quote from: Scubeadoo on November 22, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Looks good - I need a ventilation system, but given the number of cannabis factories the boys in blue have been discovering round here (south east Essex) I'm a bit worried that ordering hydroponics equipment may be inviting a raid :o

No need to worry, unless you've 50 pigeons warming their tootsies on your roof?  ;D ;D

No chance for pigeons to warm their tootsies on the roof, we have just had the insulation in the loft topped up (DH qualified for a grant as he is over 60).
Trouble is 25 years worth of junk from the loft is now in the garage as the insulation is too thick over the rafters to put it back.
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Hotglass28 on November 27, 2010, 03:31:45 PM

I had a chuckle about this  ;D

Police will raid only if they are totally certain, the teams who investigate growers do other checks and unless your house is 40 degrees and looks like a hot spot from the police air helicoptors/planes .  Don't worry at all.

Denise

Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Blue Box Studio on November 27, 2010, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Hotglass28 on November 27, 2010, 03:31:45 PM

I had a chuckle about this  ;D

Police will raid only if they are totally certain, the teams who investigate growers do other checks and unless your house is 40 degrees and looks like a hot spot from the police air helicoptors/planes .  Don't worry at all.


DH won't let me turn the heating up to 40 degrees, skinflint  >:(

I did have a pot plant when I was at boarding school.  The nuns watered it for me in the holidays.  A beautifull plant, I always was honest and asked if they would water my pot plant.  OK it was in a pot as well.  Sadly someone pointed out to the nuns that is was a differnt pot to the one they were thinking about, and they burned it.  I recall getting detention for pointing out that was exactly what I was planning on doing with it too.  It grew very well in a cool dormitory.

Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Krysia@No98 on November 28, 2010, 08:19:10 AM
Quote from: Blue Box Studio on November 27, 2010, 07:23:30 PM
and they burned it.

Naughty Nuns, that's hardly setting a good example now it is   ;)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: puffin on December 15, 2010, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Tan on November 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Honest to god, I set it up by myself in ten minutes, how easy is that?

I bought this fan
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_3244.html

Its resting on a little stool in front of my torch with the sucky in hole facing me and the sucky out hole facing to the right.


I bought this ducting
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_1289.html and this clip http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_350.html

I fed the mains lead down the back of my table to the sockets that the oxycon and kiln plug into, smooshed the ducting onto the sucky out hole and whizzed the clip onto it to hold it in place.

The ducting feeds down the gap at the back of the table and out the cat flap which is in the back door beside me, its strong enough to suck the nipples off a stripper and has more than passed the joss stick test.

No drilling, no fixing, perfect for a tight corner...........so glad I finally got this sorted and its so simple.

I know I needed it but I have spent a small fortune this month already. VERY BAD LADY you are Tan. My finger slipped and I have bought this product.

It had better be good and actually suck the nipples off a stripper .  :o
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Post by: Trudi on December 15, 2010, 02:03:53 PM
What stripper are you going to test it on??  :D  :D
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Post by: puffin on December 15, 2010, 02:28:58 PM
hmmmmm  ;D not that would be telling  ;)

Although hes not a stripper I think I will have Arton from strictly . I would put him in front of me allday

I have even gone for delivery before noon just so I have it
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Post by: puffin on December 16, 2010, 10:54:22 PM
my god what quick service I paid to arrive next day before 12pm and it came 9.30 this morning. I only bought it in the afternoon the day before.

I am stuck now though which hole is what . i.e which parts sucks the nipples off strippers and which part do i put the hose on to put out of the window. I know only 2 holes but people seem to have it in different ways. is it the big side with the hole the nipple stripper, then the thin side for the hose ????

Do not want to ask hubby as he does not know I have it yet  :o  And as he was in when it came you do not want to know where I hide it so he could not see  ::)
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Post by: Trudi on December 17, 2010, 09:30:21 AM
The bit where you can see the fan is the extractor part and the other is the one that takes the bad stuff out!
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Post by: Krysia@No98 on December 17, 2010, 12:06:57 PM

or switch it on stick your head in front of the holes the one that feels like a hair dryer, that's the hole you put the tubing on, the one put by the torch  ;)
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Trudi on December 17, 2010, 12:17:20 PM
Quote from: Krysia on December 17, 2010, 12:06:57 PM

or switch it on stick your head in front of the holes the one that feels like a hair dryer, that's the hole you put the tubing on, the one put by the torch  ;)

Love the technical explanation!
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: puffin on December 17, 2010, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Krysia on December 17, 2010, 12:06:57 PM

or switch it on stick your head in front of the holes the one that feels like a hair dryer, that's the hole you put the tubing on, the one put by the torch  ;)

Love it I will make sure my nipples are nowhere near it
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Post by: Krysia@No98 on December 17, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
 ;D

What can I say, I'm VERY tired  ;D

(of to spend some quality time with the sofa!)
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Post by: puffin on December 17, 2010, 03:45:30 PM
thats where i am after been out shopping i have stuck my arse on the sofa and not moved. i need a nap but no - one will let me  :(
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Post by: poledra1958 on December 17, 2010, 04:15:35 PM
As I do not have room on my bench for this, is there any way of attaching it to the wall.  I have an air brick just above my head in the side wall to vent it out.

Really need to get some ventilation in my shed and some heating.

Jenny
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Post by: puffin on December 17, 2010, 04:21:07 PM
It came with screws and has a thing on the back that you can attach to the wall . if that helps  ;D
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Post by: Krysia@No98 on December 17, 2010, 09:43:30 PM

oooo they have upgraded the package!

I'm tired after the company doo yesterday and the department doo today.  I am just off the sofa and thinking about dinner, the food today was dia.
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Post by: puffin on December 20, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
So like Tan said it was easy to set up and my god it does suck a nipple off a stripper !!

I asked the hubby to stand in front whilst I turned it on , naked of course , ;)  but he declined my offer  ;D  I have no idea why  ::)

So if you are unsure whether to get one or not I highly recommend it.
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Post by: mariag on December 20, 2010, 09:45:25 PM
I've got the KSA 150-2E 730m3/hr as my studio set up is in our part converted double garage (a lot of air to shift!!!)
Used it properly for the first time today & it was great.
As others have said, really easy to set up & Progrow are great to deal with & answered all of the many questions that I had ;D
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Post by: Blue Box Studio on December 25, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
Ordered mine Thursday lunchtime and it was delivered yesterday; now that's what I call service.  I can see why Tan  says it sucks the nipples off strippers - it sucks all the heat from my shedio as well, but probably means that, for the first time, I've not been in a warm bath of noxious gases.

If you are thinking of screwing it to the wall, the only wall bracket fits the narrow side (not the wide back).  You'll then have the width sticking out into the room.

Thanks to Steve at Progrow, who answered my endless silly questions.  Just hope I don't fry this like the cooker hood and extractor fan - although I've used for 3 hours today and (I waited until it had stopped and switched off at the mains) the fan and inside is not hot.  It took me a couple of hours to fix up, but I was fixing to a hole in the wall where the extractor fan once was and am pretty cack-handed when it comes to attaching things together.  I'm glad I didn't buy a bigger fan though, else I think it was sucked the torch off the table.
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Post by: flaming beads on March 07, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
Woohooo...a bit after the event...but I've just ordered mine and it maybe with me tomorrow or wednesday!!!....thanks for all the great info on this one!!....have been looking on and off for sooo long now.....glad the search is over... ;D
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Post by: Lush! on March 07, 2011, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Blue Box Studio on December 25, 2010, 04:42:34 PM

Just hope I don't fry this like the cooker hood and extractor fan - although I've used for 3 hours today and (I waited until it had stopped and switched off at the mains) the fan and inside is not hot. 

I actually forgot to turn mine off last night  :o

Went out to empty the kiln this morning and was greeted by a familiar whirring sound ... oops  :-[
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: Blue Box Studio on March 08, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: Lush! on March 07, 2011, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Blue Box Studio on December 25, 2010, 04:42:34 PM

Just hope I don't fry this like the cooker hood and extractor fan - although I've used for 3 hours today and (I waited until it had stopped and switched off at the mains) the fan and inside is not hot. 

I actually forgot to turn mine off last night  :o

Went out to empty the kiln this morning and was greeted by a familiar whirring sound ... oops  :-[

If I left mine on all night I'd be greeted by the not-so-familiar noise of neighbours banging on my front door begging for quiet.  I think they are designed to be left on for hours at a time but you'd not use mine if you didn't want to draw attention to whatever you were cultivating in the spare room.  Perhaps mine is noisier because I have a reducing as a funnel on the front?
Title: Re: Easy Ventilation.......
Post by: flaming beads on March 09, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
Highly recommended...my set up arrived yesterday..the day after I ordered it!...just gotta set it up now.. ;)
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Post by: Rockpooljewels on April 14, 2011, 09:10:29 AM
Fab thread...OMG Tan you have cheered me right up  ;D ;D ;D

Right that seems to be settled then, progrow setup it is!

woohoo

Mandyxx