Hi there, Had a look around the tips and tricks and I can't seem to find a good rational on how I should be working Clio. I've had mixed answers from people I've asked too. So, should I be working it hot or cold, and how on earth do you get the lovely pinks and purples out? I assume you reduce and then encase...all I get is muddy semi-transparent brown.
Thanks
Janey x
I found this glass very hard to get to grips with too Janey.
I found it worked very nicely if I didn't use a reduction flame at all an just struck it, it seemed to reduce and strike at the same time in a neutral flame once I'd let it cool a little.
I tried it over every pink going (and I mean them ALL) to enhance to pinkyness :D and my top tip is reichenbach gold ruby light, really came up nicely for me with no nasty reactions.
I'm still learning with this one so that's all I have to offer right now.
K xxxxxxxx
Oh and also.....
I have brownish rods, pinkish rods, lilacy rods, all strike to varying degrees of pinky/purple :-\ I was at the end of a pinkish rod in the middle of a set and switched to a brownish one...VERY different look. Both nice but not the same.
here's a set over reichenbach gold ruby light no reduction flame.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5019792167_0185da489c.jpg)
This is clear, silver foil , clio encased in clear, again no reducing. (a twist on Ambers Fire Opal Beads :))
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/5019791705_9eeae44835.jpg)
And I should also have said I found getting it snot hot (really snotty) first yielded better results :)
Hth, and sorry for rambling on over three posts ::)
K xxx
do your rods look purpley or browny?
if you have purpley ones like I had my first batch its really hard to strike it
if you have browny ones like I have now then its much easier
either way, what I do is stick it over white, fairly hot, neutral flame. shape (apparently brass is best), cool, then turn to a light reduction flame and in the back of the flame (out of the yellow candles) I waft it about until nice metallic sheen appears,it should also go a nice reddy pinky colour, (which is harder if you have the purpley rods,you might see it a bit at the edges, I don't use such a heavy reduction on this one or I get mush.) then cool and encase.
I have (finally) managed to extract pink and pueple and lustre with this one, but I had to melt my way through 1/4 lb of the purpley rods before I really started loving it, the new stuff is sooo much nicer!
anyway, try that, play with it, see what happens, she might play differently for you!
ack! kate cross posting. nevermind, posting anyway
Ramble away, Kate, those sets are lovely! I can't get much out of it either, but then I haven't played with it a lot.
I had the same experience as Madeline, went through 1/4kilo before I managed to getting anything I liked, bit of an expensive do which is why I'm more than happy to share and spare anyone else the expense if possible :)
Although al the DH's seem to be a case of individual trial and error in the end :D
I have the first batch and I get nada out of mine. I haven't tried getting it snot hot though, thanks for that Kate! I'm on a HH, so I have a naturally slight reduction flame which is causing me some issues I think..
yesh. expensive way of doing it.
there was discussion on LE about which colour rods, but they were saying pinky purpley versus green and incandescent light and all sorts was mentioned.
(oh, and DO NOT by any means visit that thread if you have the lilacy rods and get nothing out of it, it will make you insanely jealous and sick, don't do it! if you must just go search Clio on LE and its probably the first one)
if someone had just said, look for browny coloured rods, well...
I found that Clio desn't need a lot of reduction....just a slightly fuzzy flame, and instead of wafting it in the tip of the flame I just cool it a bit and then bring it up underneath about half way down and roll it in the edge of the flame to get the colours. You need a really clean oxygen rich flame to encase and that seems to stop it going muddy. It's a lovely glass when you get it right, but I still make my share of muddy DH beads!!
Ditto here - doesn't need more than a very quick in/out in a reduction flame - if you reduce too much you get browny pooey colours :(
Oh and try it over Dark Ivory - I got some WONDERFUL rainbow colours out of it, if you just give it a very quick whizz in a reduction flame (ever so slight)
i love clio! gotta be up there as one of my favs!
I wind it on and melt until clear, shape and let cool until it starts to turn dark and has totally lost its glow. then a quick light reduction, and cool encased gives your the pinks and purples. If you over reduce you will get snot.
edited to add some piccies of clio
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4996552428_4a1b6b3fc2_m.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4794395466_b26d475302_m.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4794391966_9e6d8807e6_m.jpg)
Clio is the first silver glass that I really clicked with, and I LOVE it!
For me - I usually have a base layer - 008 amber is a favourite or clear. Add on the clio as normal - and allow to cool. Give it a quick and light reduction. (Like aurea it strikes and reduces).
Then I encase - but cool encase. By that I mean put your clear on, but as you're melting it in - don't heat the snot out of it. You need a little patience - give it some heat, as it gets glowing hot (quick flash under the table) let the glow fade before carrying on.
I think you may get slightly different colours from different batches, but I've had pretty good results with all the ones I've tried so far!
ooh - and unless you want the blue or white MOP look, avoid marvering!
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4971609279_30ed203cef.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4971609279/)Clio Nuggets (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4971609279/) by Glittering Prize - Trudi (http://www.flickr.com/people/glitteringprize/), on Flickr
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4541164406_f5f51fe1a3.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4541164406/)Clio Shells (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4541164406/) by Glittering Prize - Trudi (http://www.flickr.com/people/glitteringprize/), on Flickr
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/4595455735_bce70df3f3.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4595455735/)clio bubbles Necklace (http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4595455735/) by Glittering Prize - Trudi (http://www.flickr.com/people/glitteringprize/), on Flickr
Right – making a note to try over dark ivory and reichenbach gold ruby light
Hope that helps – now lets see yours!
PS - great beads ladies!
Beautiful beads, Trudi, Shahlaa and Kate!!! Might just have to dig out my clio again!
That's ACE ladies. I'm going to have another go with Clio again over the weekend. Thanks for all your tips!
Janey x
I love clio - but then may be I have a good batch - I don't use a base just a thin tube - marvered then light reduction tip of the flame and then - try encasing in a colour shifting glass - count von count or larkspur or I've used effetre rose quartz - just working my way through transparent pinks and lilacs :)
(http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k329/Blueflamebeads_photos/2010%20Beads/August/cliobicones2.jpg)
I emphasise what others have said on here. The first batch of Clio I had (which looked like Olympic Rain - it was completely clear), wasn't very good at all for getting pink. The second batch I had - which was wee coloured, was extremely pink and lovely and very very easy to use.
If you're getting rubbish results our of your Clio, it might not be you, shock, horror, probe..... - it might be the glass you're using.
Obviously - I say this with loads of disclaimers as sometimes glass suppliers completely overreact if you infer that it might be the glass and not your own inexperience...... ::)
Quote from: sublimekate on October 07, 2010, 05:48:08 PM
I have brownish rods, pinkish rods, lilacy rods, all strike to varying degrees of pinky/purple :-\
Kate, you had some gorgeous pinky/purple beads made with Clio at the GBUK bead fair....some of which came home with me. ;D ;D Which colour rods do you find produce the best pinky/purple beads?
I hadn't realised Clio comes in a variety of shades. I have some lilacy rods but have not really achieved the colour I was hoping to get. :(
Quote from: Lyn G on October 10, 2010, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: sublimekate on October 07, 2010, 05:48:08 PM
I have brownish rods, pinkish rods, lilacy rods, all strike to varying degrees of pinky/purple :-\
Kate, you had some gorgeous pinky/purple beads made with Clio at the GBUK bead fair....some of which came home with me. ;D ;D Which colour rods do you find produce the best pinky/purple beads?
I hadn't realised Clio comes in a variety of shades. I have some lilacy rods but have not really achieved the colour I was hoping to get. :(
Yeah the lilacy ones weren't the best for me if I'm honest :-\ I got the best results from the Brownish/wee coloured ones ;D I put it over Reichenbach gold ruby light. K xx
I've had the pale lilac ones and not had a problem getting the colours out of them (the beads I've already posted are made with these rods), But I do have some of the darker brown rods and I'm getting richer colours from that batch.
Quote from: sublimekate on October 11, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Lyn G on October 10, 2010, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: sublimekate on October 07, 2010, 05:48:08 PM
I have brownish rods, pinkish rods, lilacy rods, all strike to varying degrees of pinky/purple :-\
Kate, you had some gorgeous pinky/purple beads made with Clio at the GBUK bead fair....some of which came home with me. ;D ;D Which colour rods do you find produce the best pinky/purple beads?
I hadn't realised Clio comes in a variety of shades. I have some lilacy rods but have not really achieved the colour I was hoping to get. :(
Yeah the lilacy ones weren't the best for me if I'm honest :-\ I got the best results from the Brownish/wee coloured ones ;D I put it over Reichenbach gold ruby light. K xx
Thanks, Kate.....I'll have to remember to ask Martin for the brownish/wee coloured ones next time. ;D ;D