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Lampwork => Lampworking Tip n Tricks => Topic started by: jammie on August 24, 2010, 11:16:32 AM

Title: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: jammie on August 24, 2010, 11:16:32 AM

I have   a kalera long and lean press, I really like it but so far haven't filled the whole length, I t seems to take a lot one way and not a lot of glass the other, which of course is why it will be called the long n lean. Anyway, just wondered if anyone fancied showing me a pic of a fully done long n lean... when I am making them shorter than the length I still seem to be making them to thick as the top half of the press rocks on the bead. Any pics or ideas or tips on using this press would be appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: sublimekate on August 24, 2010, 12:05:22 PM
I had this press and I just couldn't get to grips with it at all :-\ Had the same problems as you, but I know some people swear by it, hopefully they'll be along soon with some tips  :)
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: Magpie on August 24, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
I have the mini version. It's really hard to get to grips with the hothead, keeping a long tube warm. Not really had a play since I've upgraded. You basically need to make a cylinder bead. So as thin a wrap as you can, spiral up the mandrel (neatish ends). Then heat it all, roll on marver to smooth (and/or to make it longer and thinner), heat, press, add more glass to corners, heat, press, if still too small add more glass, press, decorate, press etc. But the trick for the mini one is a very narrow cylinder bead to start with. Here's some I made earlier, on the hothead. The corners aren't totally square.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4675796731_765c36f910_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/helenpetersbeads/4675796731/)
Kaz's new murrini (http://www.flickr.com/photos/helenpetersbeads/4675796731/) by HelenPetersBeads (http://www.flickr.com/people/helenpetersbeads/), on Flickr
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4329408533_7de07b0890_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/helenpetersbeads/4329408533/)
Flaming florals (http://www.flickr.com/photos/helenpetersbeads/4329408533/) by HelenPetersBeads (http://www.flickr.com/people/helenpetersbeads/), on Flickr

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: jammie on August 24, 2010, 04:19:20 PM
Thanks Kate, really interesting that the probs you had were the same, makes me feel a whole heap better  ;D

They are lovely beads Helen. So that's how they  should look. great that helps a lot. It is a nice shape isnt it, I got one nearly long enough but not quite. It is getting it long enough and thin enough thats more difficult to do. The one I did didn't get too cold or crack but it is quite a bit of work making sure it all stays hot.
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: Amber on August 25, 2010, 10:35:26 AM
The thing I love about this press is that it is so versatile. You don't have to fill it, so you can have long and lean, short and fat and everything in between!  :D ;)
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: Trudi on August 25, 2010, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Amber on August 25, 2010, 10:35:26 AM
The thing I love about this press is that it is so versatile. You don't have to fill it, so you can have long and lean, short and fat and everything in between!  :D ;)

indeed!
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: turnedlight on August 25, 2010, 03:49:30 PM
Here's one I did about a year ago, I had my Dad make a thin plate of brass to make the kalera press cavity slightly thicker, as I was finding that the beads were cracking easily before.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3589149567_35fedbc0c2_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53211004@N00/3589149567/)
magic tree (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53211004@N00/3589149567/) by turnedlight (http://www.flickr.com/people/53211004@N00/), on Flickr
I like the press but I do find it takes time to fill!
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: jammie on August 25, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
I love that bead!  :)
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: plasticdux on September 29, 2010, 08:26:35 PM
Hi,

As with any press that you are using for the first time i reccomend the old Plasticine on a stick routine!!

Pack the press with a plasticine like substance (or leftover dough from your weekly baking session), once your happy with the size and shape stick it on a mandrel and squish into a barrell shape, this way when you use the press you have a reference to how much glass and the length of application of glass needed along the mandrel.

It works for me.

Good luck.
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on September 29, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
Top tip mister ;)
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: plasticdux on September 29, 2010, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: Tan on September 29, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
Top tip mister ;)

Why thank you madam!!
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on September 29, 2010, 08:35:22 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: Chameleon on September 29, 2010, 09:22:40 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5020212851_50592d382b_m.jpg) (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5020212851_50592d382b_m.jpg)

Pic shows a bead that filled the cavity in the press. Normally I make a tube roughly to the size i think, squish it and then if more glass is needed add it along the middle of the bead (over the top of where the mandrel is running) then melt, heat and squish again. I do really like it when people make beads where they use the press without filling it, much more organic. I have a bit of an ocd thing with corners though so never like mine when I do that but I have a few of other peoples that are lovely
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: Kaz on September 29, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
I like to round off the corners
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5007816265_1d18f1d566.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekycherubdesigns/5007816265/)
IMG_9109 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekycherubdesigns/5007816265/) by Kaz ~ CheekyCherubDesigns (http://www.flickr.com/people/cheekycherubdesigns/), on Flickr
Kazx
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: beadysam on September 29, 2010, 09:48:41 PM
I like the rounded corners too. ;D
Title: Re: what should a kalera long n lean bead look like
Post by: jammie on September 29, 2010, 10:18:19 PM
Aw lovely beads there. I sold my press cos I wanted a beadroller more but I do like the shape of these beads  :) Love that one  with the murrini Kaz. :)