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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Kalorlo on August 02, 2010, 11:23:14 PM

Title: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 02, 2010, 11:23:14 PM
I made a pair of plain EDP spacers at the weekend - kept hot all the time I was shaping them and put them in the kiln glowing in an attempt to prevent them devitrifying. Well, there's no devit, but they came out a slightly misty transparent!

Um, is EDP supposed to do that?  ;D

I've only used it in small amounts of surface decoration before and it was properly opaque then...

Will add photo tomorrow.
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Dragonfire Glass on August 03, 2010, 12:12:53 AM
I assume it was EDP?
Never had it go transparent  :)
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 03, 2010, 07:41:52 AM
Yup, it's definitely EDP. I collected it at the FlameOff (from Martin, I think) and it's behaved as expected with periwinkle and things...
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Yellow friend on August 03, 2010, 04:12:08 PM
Well I think it is called Evil  :D
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: beadysam on August 03, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
I've never had a bead go transparent but the end of the rod often is so I suppose thats just part of the fun of EDP! ;D
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 03, 2010, 07:53:39 PM
Here they are:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4857253227_c08b21150d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kalorlo/4857253227/)

Rod, stringer from the used rod, beads from the used rod... They're hazy and a bit pinker than they photographed. For comparison, my rubino is darker and clearer.

Now I'll go and see if I can make it be opaque!
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: fionaess on August 04, 2010, 12:34:52 AM
very strange  :o
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Lilley on August 04, 2010, 07:46:16 AM
Hi, I think I have the answer - you do not have EDP there!  I bought some from Martin earlier this year and wondered why I was having a problem with it - and was suspicious about the core as if you look at the end you can see what looks like a transparent core with EDP round it.  I was on holiday last week in Pickering so not very far from Tuffnells so had to go and say hello (and buy more glass - oops!) whilst there I asked Martin about my EDP.  It turns out it is not EDP but is stripy pink - he made a mistake earlier in the year and stripy pink went out instead of EDP.  Stripy pink is a rubino core with EDP round the outside (I'm a newbie so if I've got that wrong please correct me) anyway, I gather it is a pretty glass and expensive (but still not good if what you wanted was purple...).  But that would explain both the pink colour and the transparency.
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Betty the Chook on August 04, 2010, 08:12:22 AM
Hmmm. It sure doesn't look like my EDP - with that strange core - so I think fionaess might have solved this one
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Yellow friend on August 04, 2010, 08:51:18 AM
I agree - the EDP I have is opaque all the way through.
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 04, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Ahh, thanks Lilley! I was beginning to wonder...

Now I guess I should go and look up whether there's a better way to work it.

When I was doing surface decoration with it I was using the stringer only, which I made by creating a plug on my chopsticks and pulling, so I think that must have mixed it up enough that it appeared opaque when used.
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Trudi on August 04, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
Hmm - I have stripped pink and while it's called pink it's actually opaque purple!

here's a link to a picture
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glitteringprize/4827751661/
sorry I would post it but flickr has been updated and doesn't seem to be playing nicely!

I thought Martin had only just got this stripped pink in!
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 04, 2010, 09:14:13 AM
I really don't know. He did have striped pink on his website before, but only briefly, and that was around the time I ordered.
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: helenfc on August 04, 2010, 09:17:26 AM
ahh, i have that stuff too, I got it under the impression it was edp too? so does martin have the real epd in now?
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 04, 2010, 09:27:03 AM
I've PMed Martin anyway, so we'll see  :)
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Emma @ Tuffnell Glass on August 04, 2010, 09:38:20 AM
Hello It's me ;D I'm back!
Yes there was a mistake. We didn't spot it until the new batch of Stripped pink came in. The problem was that the first time we ordered it we thought it hadn't been sent as we had also ordered EDP. We had no idea what the rods would look like LOL and it turns out they had not sent edp just the stripped pink......er this is making no sense is it???
Anyway yes if it has the transparent core you have Stripped pink. It is a lot more expensive than the EDP so I guess in a round about sort of you you got a bargain  ;)
As ever, If you would like me to swop it let me know in a PM.

Em xx
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: helenfc on August 04, 2010, 10:47:52 AM
ha ha now you tell me emma, I've only got one rod left! ;)
best hold on to the expensive stuff and order some actual edp  :D
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: Kalorlo on August 04, 2010, 11:08:51 AM
Helen, when you've used yours, what colour has it been?
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: helenfc on August 04, 2010, 12:48:29 PM
sorta like i would have expected edp...used it on opal yellow with silver foil and it was a lovely shiny deep opaque purple...it definitely has a core just like the one in your pic though!
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: rocky on August 04, 2010, 02:56:12 PM
Oh, my EDP has a trans centre too, and I had some dots go translucent the other day. I thought it was odd ... so its striped pink! ::)
Title: Re: EDP went transparent...
Post by: ★★Terri★★ on August 05, 2010, 05:56:35 PM
I got some EDP from Off Mandrel a couple of weeks ago - it looks just like the rods in the photo.  Not used it yet - never used it before.....gulp!!!