Just wondering ... do you need planning permission for a shed or cabin in your garden? ::)
Maybe a fairly large one ... that doesn't contain a lawnmower ...
not 100% but I think it depends on how much of the garden it is going to cover. We put up a normal 8 x 10 one and did not get planning permission for that. Probably best to have a search on your local council web page.
Jenny
I don't think so. But there are supposed to be rules about how far from the boundary a shed or greenhouse should be? Are you planning a new shedio then, Lushness? How exciting! ;D
Ohhhhhh are you thinking of relocating from the torch porch?
..... just idly browsing, like you do ... ;)
You might like to check this http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/public/buildingwork/projects/workcommonoutbuildings/ (http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/public/buildingwork/projects/workcommonoutbuildings/)
Under new regulations that came into effect on 1 October 2008 outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:
then it list all the limits and conditions.
Jenny
we had a log cabin put in the garden and that did not need planning , i think it all depends on the size of the shed / cabin and your local council rules
No you dont need planning as long as its away from and not joined to your house.
Having said that - neighbours are allowed to complain if it obstructs their view / light etc.
A great way to cover yourself is to go online to your council website - email the planning officer your idea and he'll email back if he thinks it's OK - all free - and you're covered if a 'friendly' neighbour complains.
You should check your deeds to see if you're allowed to operate a business from your home - if not - make sure it looks like a garden shed if it's overlooked!
I think it depends a bit on your local planning office. We had to get planning permission for a conservatory because our council works on the square footage of any 'outbuildings' that already exist within the property - and that included a separate garage. As we have a detached double garage (that was built with the house, I might add!) we were over the 'allowed' square footage and that meant planning permission :( However, sheds may not be classed the same as a conservatory, but I would be inclined to just check.
I always thought that a shed was classed as a temporary structure - no matter how sturdy it was and, as such, planning permission was not needed - but as people above have said does no hard to make sure.
Diane x
Thanks guys, off to check that link Jenny, ta!
Hi Julie,
We looked into this. If I remember correctly it has to be one or one and a half metres from any boundary and under I think 2.5 metre high to avoid planning. however if its a good shedio supplier they will advise on planning issues.
Regards
Nick
I had to get planning for my shed no matter how big it was or how far from the house because we live in a "designated area of outstanding natural beauty"-try saying that after a few glasses of plonk!
I think to be on the safe side you should always chat to your local planning officer as the rules vary so much, better to be safe than sorry ;)
I like to follow rules and regs .....however, I live in an area where there doesn't seem to be fairness or common sense applied to the decisions on who gets planning permission and for what. If it was me i'd read the rules, interpret them as best i could, and go on building without contacting the planning people :-X I think you can do pretty much with a "temporary structure" (and I believe the max allowed height of a tree house is 4m ;D)
In our area, the rule is that it has to be less than a standard single story high (I can't remember what the exact height is, but my standard shed came well below the limit) and cover less than 50% of the garden to be exempt from planning permission.
Quote from: julieHB on July 13, 2010, 07:27:29 PM
If it was me i'd read the rules, interpret them as best i could, and go on building without contacting the planning people :-X
You too huh? ;) ;D
might be worth checking if the structure has a different definition and therefore rules if it has perminate electric supply ...seam to remember something from next door building their extention ...
Where I live they removed all permitted development rights when they built the estates. We have to get planning permission for everything ???
Quote from: Diane on July 13, 2010, 05:05:23 PM
I always thought that a shed was classed as a temporary structure - no matter how sturdy it was and, as such, planning permission was not needed - but as people above have said does no hard to make sure.
Diane x
I was just about to say that Diane!!! You are correct, a wooden shed is classed as a temp building so it is ok. Also if you are replacing an existing shed/building with a new one, no PP is required.
I got my info from my brother (a few months ago) who dealt with house extensions, conservatories, sheds etc etc, as I am having a new studio too Julie and amazingly I won't need PP either, even though it's for a 24ft x 10ft concrete building. Even concrete panel buildings are classed as temp buildings and mine is replacing 2 older sheds so I'm ok to go ahead.
I do strongly recommend looking at concrete garages/workshops, my DH has a huge 32ft x 13ft concrete building for his hobby. We insulated and plasterboarded it before painting it. It's fantastic, cool in the summer (it has 3 windows) and keeps warm in winter..............and it's more secure than a wooden shed.................and won't ever rot................and doesn't get damp.........................and can be dismantled................I could go on...................but I won't!!!!
My new studio is just a standard concrete panel garage with extra windows and small door instead of large up and over, you'll be amazed at how little they can cost!!!!
My council says I need pp for a brick BBQ! Maybe I should move :'(
A lot of people are right even though they have said conflicting things! ???
The bottom line is that you should check with your local planning office because in some areas (usually new estates) the council have taken away permitted development rights and you can't build anything!
Planning departments are usually very helpful and it is worth making sure that you have the up to date advice for your area. Most sheds won't need planning permission but some will and if you do need permission then my tip would be to make sure that the neighbours are happy.
I used to be a local councillor and on occasion all hell would break loose because someone had put up a shed which did not conform to the rules - and life is too short to fall out with your neighbours for the sake of a phone call to the planning office and a friendly chat with next door to let them know what is going on (assuming there is an impact on the neighbour)
Sandra
My dad has pointed out tonight that I would actually be replacing a shed, although I did take the old one down a couple of summers ago but I'd use the same base.
Or ... another idea is to totally replace the existing very shabby garage with a new one and line the inside - any tips on garage suppliers Bev?
I had to get permission for mine but i think that was only because i live in' area of outstanding naturalbeauty 'i think if it's normal size and you live in an area without restrictions on building you're OK.
Here it's OK unless it's near the road, then it needs planning permission 'cos car drivers might crash whilst peering into your shed!!!
You must be in a flat bit of Malvern, Lush, if you're even considering a shed. I was in malvern Wells for 9 years and it was too steep for anything!!
Anne
Quote from: Curlybird on July 14, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
You must be in a flat bit of Malvern, Lush, if you're even considering a shed. I was in malvern Wells for 9 years and it was too steep for anything!!
When anybody asks me whereabouts in Malvern do I live, I always say "the flat bit" ;D
Quote from: Lush! on July 13, 2010, 11:36:45 PM
Or ... another idea is to totally replace the existing very shabby garage with a new one and line the inside - any tips on garage suppliers Bev?
I know this company is a bit far from you Julie, but it's a good example of value for money IMHO. There are lots of companies offering the same Lidget garages at vastly different prices it's just a case of finding the best price.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Flat-roof-concrete-garages-8ft6in-x-20ft3in-only-1379-/270605592675?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f0159a863 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Flat-roof-concrete-garages-8ft6in-x-20ft3in-only-1379-/270605592675?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f0159a863)
Hi Julie, I used to work for a Planning Dept and one tip that might be useful is if you contact your Local Council and ask them to appraise your shed/garage ideas to see if they can give you an 'in principal' agreement. This is, effectively, a planning application without spending any money on applying for planning.
Hope that helps.
Jules
Hi,
Not many flat bits to put a shed on in Malvern so lucky there, otherwise it would have been a rope and and some climbing kit to secure the shed and it's contents. There is a bit on the worcester council web site about planning and sheds.
Regards
Hi Julie, recomend what Petal said. We did that and it saved a lot of money and silly mistakes. Strangely enough planning people are there to help and advise not refuse. :) :) :)
Pete
I know this may be a long shot but I've seen several concrete garages on Freecycle. You might want to sign up to all your local ones and keep your eyes open - especially if you are willing to help take it down!