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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Clair on March 20, 2010, 08:40:03 PM

Title: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 20, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
I found some rods of a glass which has the label 'silver brown' on it. I bought it so long ago, I can't even remember which make of glass it is. The problem is, that no matter what I do with this glass, it melts into clear - no colour, no irridescence, nothing!
I've tried reducing it; oxidising it; cooling it to within an inch of its life and quickly reheating it; using it with frit and silver - it stubbornly refuses to react or reduce and just bleaches to a clear glass.
The rod is a transluscent brown with stratas of dark and pale brown in.
Does anyone have any idea what this glass is and what I should do to tease it into life?
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Veebee on March 20, 2010, 08:43:50 PM
Souds about right. It's Reichenbach and it's tricky! Get the shape, cool, reduce, then encase REALLY slowly. The silver will disappear if it is over heated on encasement.
HTH!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 20, 2010, 08:52:05 PM
So lots of TLC then? x
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Veebee on March 20, 2010, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: Clair on March 20, 2010, 08:52:05 PM
So lots of TLC then? x

Without a doubt!
;D
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Trudi on March 20, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
If you do a search, probablyin s&t, you'll find a thread about it!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: silverlemon on March 21, 2010, 06:34:08 PM
Hi Clair, this glass strikes and reduces.

I tend to pull stringers from it, it goes clear when I get it hot enough to pull a stringer.

Try it over red, cobalt  or ink. You need to reduce heavily, then encase. While you melt your encasing in it will naturally strike.


I've also seen it used on ivory and reduced, looked yummy.

HTH  :)

Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 22, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Thanks Sarah and Trudi for pointing me in the direction of S&T (sounds like a dubious yet pleasurable practice!) I'll give it a go again as I obviously haven't reduced it enough. Must admit, I never thought to encase it either!  :P
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on March 22, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Fab tips Sarah, I'm about to have a play for the first time and your bit about the stringer going clear has set me on the right track
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Trudi on March 22, 2010, 08:58:22 PM
Quote from: Clair on March 22, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Thanks Sarah and Trudi for pointing me in the direction of S&T (sounds like a dubious yet pleasurable practice!) I'll give it a go again as I obviously haven't reduced it enough. Must admit, I never thought to encase it either!  :P


ahhhhhhhh it's all in the encasing!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: helenfc on March 22, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
aaah this is handy, i found dark silver brown quite easy, then ordered silver brown instead (whoops) and found it really hard to work with! thanks! :)
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Krysia@No98 on March 24, 2010, 03:24:51 PM


I've made some discs with it.  Personally I quite like it as it is, but then I'm funny like that  ::)
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 24, 2010, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: Krysia on March 24, 2010, 03:24:51 PM


I've made some discs with it.  Personally I quite like it as it is, but then I'm funny like that  ::)

Have you got any piccies?
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Krysia@No98 on March 24, 2010, 08:16:53 PM
I do, but it's made up into a necklace so it's kind difficult to make out....  Let me fiddle and see what I can do...

(http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/_Krysia_/P1010803-1.jpg) (http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww140/_Krysia_/?action=view&current=P1010803-1.jpg)

It's not great I'm afraid.  I would take another picture but it was a christmas pressie  :-\
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: fionaess on March 25, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
This is silver brown, reduced and then encased...


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/3804032579_3d06236c21.jpg)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/41369288@N08/3804032579/)
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: julieHB on March 25, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
Oooh, that's lovely, Fiona!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: helenfc on March 25, 2010, 07:40:10 PM
 :o thats gorgeous fiona didnt know siver brown was capable of that!! :)
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Trudi on March 25, 2010, 07:42:50 PM
Wow - great colours!!!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: fionaess on March 25, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Thanks - they are silver brown on cobalt transparent and then encased...
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: silverlemon on March 25, 2010, 09:02:02 PM
wow, lovely
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: kerensky on March 26, 2010, 09:01:42 AM
Quote from: fionaess on March 25, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Thanks - they are silver brown on cobalt transparent and then encased...

Wow - and they are also Gorgeous!

Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 27, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
Blimey! Well, that's me off to the old garage to practice some more. They are stunning - the reactions are amazing!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: fionaess on March 27, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
You don't see the colour until you encase.. so don't keep reducing while muttering to yourself,,,, she said they would go blue when I reduced, where is the bloody blue.. I hate this glass, it must be my torch, set up, crap batch of glass, wind in the wrong direction or that damn woman didn't tell me how to do it right  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Ilona on March 27, 2010, 05:37:45 PM
They are beautiful :)
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: ♥♥Tan♥♥ on March 27, 2010, 08:04:19 PM
Gorgeous Fiona you clever thing!
Title: Re: 'Silver Brown' conundrum
Post by: Clair on March 27, 2010, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: fionaess on March 27, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
You don't see the colour until you encase.. so don't keep reducing while muttering to yourself,,,, she said they would go blue when I reduced, where is the bloody blue.. I hate this glass, it must be my torch, set up, crap batch of glass, wind in the wrong direction or that damn woman didn't tell me how to do it right  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hehehe! Now would I?...................... ;)