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Title: To core or not to core?
Post by: Betty the Chook on January 03, 2010, 10:54:42 PM
I hope I am putting this question in the right place, ........thinking goes- I am a newbie and it involves glass beads.

I have made a bunch of beads to fit onto 3mm sterling snake chain and it now occurs to me that the reason for silver coring could be that it protects the chain from damage by the beads (and the silver also looks really cool with the glass).
Should I be coring my beads to protect the chain, or am I just worrying needlessly??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Redhotsal on January 03, 2010, 11:31:00 PM
Personally - I think it's just a gimmick - I've had some glass beads on a chain now for five years and they look exactly the same as when they first went on them. So does the chain!

One thing you do get though - the snake chains can get a little dusty looking from the bead middles as no matter how well you clean them there is always a small residue of bead release elft there which ingrains itself into the snake chain "links". Easily removed with cleaning though.
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Betty the Chook on January 04, 2010, 02:11:35 AM
Yay! That saves me a lot of work!
Thanks!!!!!
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: madpup on January 04, 2010, 04:02:43 AM
im with sal on this one, i cored mine with a kit from halfords, 1p a core,
not quiet silver, but it does the job.
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: turnedlight on January 04, 2010, 05:12:25 PM
I have one that isn't cored, next to some that are, I wear it lots and it is fine :)
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: astringofbeads on January 04, 2010, 05:17:39 PM
I've worn uncored ones before, the only thing I noticed was the cores on the transparent ones get grubby and show the dirt, but apart from that they were fine. A thick shiny silver chain may become scratched though from wearing them on it too.
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: lemon kitten on January 04, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: madpup on January 04, 2010, 04:02:43 AM
im with sal on this one, i cored mine with a kit from halfords, 1p a core,
not quiet silver, but it does the job.

Now that sounds interesting what kit is that then??

Janey x
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: GlassOcean on January 04, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: lemon kitten on January 04, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: madpup on January 04, 2010, 04:02:43 AM
im with sal on this one, i cored mine with a kit from halfords, 1p a core,
not quiet silver, but it does the job.

Now that sounds interesting what kit is that then??

Janey x

Ooo yes, what is that then???
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Dragonfire Glass on January 04, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
I would think the glass is harder wearing than the core!
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: julieHB on January 04, 2010, 07:10:20 PM
Must say, they look nice with a silver core, though  :D 8)
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Betty the Chook on January 05, 2010, 03:13:13 AM
I think I am going to have to try the silver coring as well. I have two bracelets on with no cores and the chain is getting a little "sanded" and losing it's shine. This is OK, but I might just have to try the silver cores too and see how they go. There are simply not enough hours in the day for all the things that this lampworking demands that I try!
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Natz33 on January 05, 2010, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: GlassOcean on January 04, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: lemon kitten on January 04, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: madpup on January 04, 2010, 04:02:43 AM
im with sal on this one, i cored mine with a kit from halfords, 1p a core,
not quiet silver, but it does the job.

Now that sounds interesting what kit is that then??

Janey x

Would be very interested in this also?
Ooo yes, what is that then???
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: madpup on January 05, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
I cannot find the ones i bought on the halfords web site
but if you look here they look the same,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/400-5mm-EYELETS-CRAFT-CARD-MAKING-LEATHERCRAFT-EYELET_W0QQitemZ280433060124QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Crafts_Embellishments_SM?hash=item414b1ce91c

if you have a look on this thread
http://www.frit-happens.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17364.0
you will see how i used them,they are not anywhere as good
as the silver ones but its cheap and easy.
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Donna@Rockin' Beads on January 05, 2010, 07:57:03 PM
I use the Palmer Metals ones - can't remember the price but they are sterling silver, very cheap and look great (if you glue them in neatly  ::))
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: chocolateteapot on January 05, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
yes..me thinks he got talent too..he makes the glass his own..no fear...i wish i could do that. Will look forward to seein your progress. I cnat even get picture in here....honest.....
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: madpup on January 05, 2010, 10:39:57 PM
Thanks chocolate,
Thanks Donna i found the ones on Palmer metals and i will be putting
a order in soon (works out at about 50 beads for £10).
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: chocolateteapot on January 05, 2010, 10:53:48 PM
chook dont forget to make sure the silver thingys will fit in the  bead....a bit gutting when u get them and they too big..or to small...thats where u will find a pair of digital calipers indispensible..well i do anyway....
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Betty the Chook on January 11, 2010, 03:54:30 AM
I have had a bit of a go trying to core with copper tubing (cos it's cheap) and a couple of disaster beads and it was a complete fail. I think the tubing is too thick and I didn't anneal the metal properly or I just don't have enough control or something. The copper tubing flared out on one side and not the other and went all wonky. And that was before I even turned the whole lot over to do the opposite end of the tube. Now I see the value in the Impress Bead corer Machine thingy - even pressure and control... and the bead can't slip. I think I might just need one of those for my birthday.....
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: paintboxcrafts on January 18, 2010, 11:06:03 AM
Hi,

I have just ordered one of these. It looks like I can make my own version of the Impress Bead liner from it,
if necessary I will have to get one of the Impress spare pegs to make up the bottom bit.
It is basically a flaring tool for brake pipes. My OH runs a garage and kindly went and found his for me, but it was covered in 30 years of oil and grease!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-37870-Pipe-Flaring-Tool/dp/B0001K9TZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=diy&qid=1263812235&sr=1-1

I have only made one big hole bead so far on a 5mm mandrel, so I'm off to make some more with and without double dipping, to give me something to practise on.

Cathy
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Trudi on January 18, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
It would be interesting to see how you get on - how would you keep the bead still?

T x

Quote from: paintboxcrafts on January 18, 2010, 11:06:03 AM
Hi,

I have just ordered one of these. It looks like I can make my own version of the Impress Bead liner from it,
if necessary I will have to get one of the Impress spare pegs to make up the bottom bit.
It is basically a flaring tool for brake pipes. My OH runs a garage and kindly went and found his for me, but it was covered in 30 years of oil and grease!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-37870-Pipe-Flaring-Tool/dp/B0001K9TZQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=diy&qid=1263812235&sr=1-1

I have only made one big hole bead so far on a 5mm mandrel, so I'm off to make some more with and without double dipping, to give me something to practise on.

Cathy
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: paintboxcrafts on January 18, 2010, 11:46:07 AM
Hi,
I am planning to make a bottom bar like the Impress one, using one of the Impress pegs that you can buy as a spare part.
OH says he can use his workshop to tap into the "top bit" so I can attach the bottom bar with screws - thats if I can't fudge it with the bar and little adaptors that come with the tool. I will let you know how I get on.

Cathy
Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: Lush! on January 18, 2010, 06:02:46 PM
The spare pegs you get from Art in the Round are just little screws - you'll need to add something to the bottom bar to hold the screw.

Title: Re: To core or not to core?
Post by: paintboxcrafts on January 18, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Thanks for the tip off Julie, I think OH has a tool for cutting a thread.
I'm looking forward to giving it a go!