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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: jammie on December 11, 2009, 02:05:41 PM

Title: CIM without a kiln
Post by: jammie on December 11, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
I bought some CIM from a couple of places and I dont have a kiln  and I've read some threads on here which says it doesnt like to go into vermiculite and people have trouble with the beads cracking, would I be best to wait until I have  a kiln ( have no clue how long that will be ) so they can be annealed straight away. Is it a nice glass to work with, I just thought it would be the same as other glass and would be okay but theres seems to be a problem with cracking and now I'm not sure what to do. mostly I've just been practicing with effetre and vetrofond and didn't intend to play with the CIM until I was a bit more skillful anyway. :)
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: theflyingbedstead on December 11, 2009, 02:16:40 PM
It depends a bit on which colours you have...the gorgeous opalescent ones (like Halong Bay, Peacock Green, Crocus and Cirrus) seem to be the most sensitive, I have found, and some like Pulsar pit like crazy.  But saying that, if you can pre-warm your vermiculite then you might be ok.  There is only one way to find out though!
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: princess pink on December 11, 2009, 02:53:54 PM
try a fibre blanket instead of vermiculite. I haven't had a single cim bead break using it, where as i lost lots in vermiculite. I have a kiln but only batch anneal so definitely worth trying the fibre blanket. in fact since swapping to the blanket I've lost a total of 5 beads in 6 months.
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: Nikki on December 11, 2009, 04:32:38 PM
Hi
I use vermiculite with lots of CIM colours and have never had a problem. As others have said you just need to try. I don't make the beads very big which may help too.
Nikki
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: Tollgate-Debs on December 11, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
I put mine into a double layered (top and bottom) fibre blanket, inside a flight case and have never lost a bead.  I know it is a bit of over kill, but that's me!

Debs :)
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: Mand on December 12, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
I've alway had problems with CIM cracking in vermiculite too, and now I bead with my kiln on and anneal as I go, don't get any "crackers" any more.  I  love CIM glass, such gorgeous colours.  ;D
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: June on December 12, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
I use quite a bit of CiM and put them in verminculite (not warmed either) and don't get that many crack (never looked to see if the ones that do are primarily CiM, mind you). 
Title: Re: CIM without a kiln
Post by: Katiequiggle on December 12, 2009, 01:32:01 PM
What everyone else said.  I used to use vermiculite but can't remember a vast amount of cim beads cracking over effetre ones, but since having the fire blanket I rarely get a cracked bead apart from discs.  Now days I usually anneal as I go unless I just pop in for the odd hour.