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Title: best clear for encasing
Post by: littlehondachop on September 09, 2009, 06:45:17 AM
which is the best clear glass for encasing, :-\  i am on a hh( i love my hh) so i dont know if this makes a difference to which glass is best, i am sure there will be lots of opinions on this  lol  ;D

sam xx
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: julieHB on September 09, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
I find the Lauscha clear the absolute best, but it doesn't always go with silver glass. For those I use effetre crystal clear 006.

I think quite a few people use Precision clear with silver, but I have not tried that. I have also no tried the cim clear.
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: One Key Beads on September 09, 2009, 08:10:43 AM
I like the vetrofond clear for everything, including the silver glassess.  I wasn't fussed on the effetre (although I haven't tried the new one).   

Jeanette 
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Trudi on September 09, 2009, 08:43:09 AM
vetrofond is nice and soft  - but I fond that each time when I go to use it (even between beads in the same session) I have to nip the ends off as it bubbles .........

I tend to use effetre 006 (won't touch the 004 stuff!). I do have some lauscha too which is very nice!
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Pat from Canvey on September 09, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
I bought Lauscha clear thick rods from, I think, Sooz and I've been very impressed with them.
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Mand on September 09, 2009, 09:31:56 AM
I am soooo rubbish at encasing. I always end up dragging all my pattern round the bead in a big smeary mess.  I blame my HH.  Bad workmen/workwomen blame their tools eh?  ::)
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Lush! on September 09, 2009, 09:32:48 AM
I agree with the 006, its lovely and its cheap!
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Trudi on September 09, 2009, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: Mand on September 09, 2009, 09:31:56 AM
I am soooo rubbish at encasing. I always end up dragging all my pattern round the bead in a big smeary mess.  I blame my HH.  Bad workmen/workwomen blame their tools eh?  ::)

It took me ages to get the hang of encasing - all the books you see make it look so neat and are more written for people on dual fuel.

I tend to use the "linear" method - I get my base bead  - then heat a gather of clear and then run it along the bead (following the line of the mandrel from hole to hole) then repeat slightly overlaping the first one - remember esp on a hot hed to keep all of the bead warm inbetween  - when you have all the stripes laid on - before i melt in, if there are any gaps at the ends - then I dob a little bit on before I melt it.

Have a go Mand
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Mand on September 09, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
I did that once after having seen Sarah Horniks demo at last years FO.  It didn't work, I still ended up smearing all my pattern.  Maybe I'm holding the bead too close to the hottest part of the flame then?
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Trudi on September 09, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Mand on September 09, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
I did that once after having seen Sarah Horniks demo at last years FO.  It didn't work, I still ended up smearing all my pattern.  Maybe I'm holding the bead too close to the hottest part of the flame then?

Yep your base needs to be cool - but what I'd do if i was you - as I'm adding say every other line of clear make sure you give the bead some heat all the way round to keep it warm - HH don't generate as much radial heat as a dual fuel so you'll need to give your bead some heat to stop it cracking. Guess it's all a bit trial and error - but give it another go.

Perhaps if you don't mind nipping the ends off vetrofond would be better to try as it is softer!
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Mand on September 09, 2009, 12:36:07 PM
OK thanks Trudi.  Next time I'm in an "encasing mood" I will give it a go.  :)
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: SallyB on September 09, 2009, 09:50:21 PM
Hi Sam

I'm on a HotHead too and bought some Effetre 006 because everyone says how great it is.  I was really disappointed though.  Mine ends up with brown streaks in it.  I find 004 better.  They are the only two clears I've tried.  I think it's amazing how everyone has different experiences with their clear.  I'd like to give Lauscha a try but haven't come across it in the two UK suppliers I'm aware of plus am trying hard to save up some money for a kiln before something else comes along that I have to spend my PayPal money on.

I'd be interested to know how you get on with whichever clear you try. 

Good luck
Sally
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Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Shirley on September 09, 2009, 09:59:28 PM
When I was using my hothead I used Lauscha most of the time. I had to pull it into fairly thick stringers because it was the hard variety. I'd imagine the softer version that's now available would work really well.

Didn't someone on here have some for sale a couple of days ago?
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: SallyB on September 09, 2009, 10:07:53 PM
Hi Shirley

Someone did and it went super quick.  I was tempted by her brass javelin and the spade thing but that went before I could nab it too.

Good thing really since my savings do need a boost rather than a reduction.

Sally
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Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: flowerjasper on September 09, 2009, 10:33:02 PM
on my hot head lauscha worked for me, loved it!
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: littlehondachop on September 09, 2009, 11:13:59 PM
Quote from: SallyB on September 09, 2009, 09:50:21 PM
Hi Sam

I'm on a HotHead too and bought some Effetre 006 because everyone says how great it is.  I was really disappointed though.  Mine ends up with brown streaks in it.  I find 004 better.  They are the only two clears I've tried.  I think it's amazing how everyone has different experiences with their clear.  I'd like to give Lauscha a try but haven't come across it in the two UK suppliers I'm aware of plus am trying hard to save up some money for a kiln before something else comes along that I have to spend my PayPal money on.

I'd be interested to know how you get on with whichever clear you try. 

Good luck
Sally

hi sally, i got 006 thats why i was asking cos the your right the 006 is disapointing i got brown streaks as well, will try the 004 and see how i get on , will let you know lol

sam xx


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Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Tracy on September 10, 2009, 09:54:14 PM
hrumph I been waiting to try the 006 as I have some beads crack with the 004, and Martin has only gone and sold out!!  :o lol
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: SallyB on September 14, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
Thanks for letting me know it's not just me Sam
I'm going to give the fancy Lauscha one a try if I can get hold of it.
Sally
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Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: SallyB on September 16, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
Hi

I treated myself to some Lauscha clear and have been disappointed.  It's a massively long and thick rod which is fine but it has given me not streaks this time but black bits on the surface of the bead.

I've ordered some 004 which is the one I seem to have the best results with.

Sally
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Kaz on September 17, 2009, 07:49:40 AM
Hi Sally - have you checked there is nothing stuck inside your torch - bits of glass, silver, insects - unscrew it and give it a really good shake out. You shouldn't have problems like that with Lauscha.
Kazx
Title: Re: best clear for encasing
Post by: Lloki on September 19, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: SallyB on September 16, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
Hi

I treated myself to some Lauscha clear and have been disappointed.  It's a massively long and thick rod which is fine but it has given me not streaks this time but black bits on the surface of the bead.


Sally

Blimey I'm surprised you found this - I've got some of the new "soft" Lauscha and think it's superb, just like butter! I mostly use the "swipe" method, so I find the thicker rods are ideal :D