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Title: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 13, 2009, 09:18:29 PM
Has anyone insulated their shed (sorry work space) I am about to be evicted into 8x6 shed and OH wants to insulate the shed. Is there anyone who works in theirs in the winter.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Les on August 13, 2009, 09:34:12 PM
I think that quite a few peeps on here have insulated sheds... err.... studios :)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: turnedlight on August 13, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
Yes, and I insulated and I'm pleased I did.  :)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: GoodMonkey on August 13, 2009, 09:35:48 PM
SandraJ has and it's brilliant - she would tell you herself but she's sunning herself in Cyprus!!!
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Zeldazog on August 13, 2009, 10:06:11 PM
I might be getting a new shed studio in the next few months.....

brother came round last weekend to look at if I have enough paving slabs for the base, and how big would it need to be?  Sis in Law asked how long it would be before I actually got a shed though (I have one that was given and its full)..... my next student payment is due in September...  ;D ;D ;D (found some summer houses online for around £500).

Might be a long while before I can get it powered and insulated, but if I can have a decent space to put my huge stock of glass, my cutting space and my grinder, even if my fusing kiln lives in the kitchen a bit longer, it's gonna make me a whole lot happier!

And of course, we will be looking to incorporate a torching space, but don't tell Ashley...... :-X

OH yes, and we will be insulating - not so much for the keeping it warm aspect, as a torch going and kiln on would sort that out, but if electricals are going to live in there, then it's a good idea to avoid condensation and overnight cold affecting them.

Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: sarah t on August 13, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
when doing mine we decided to insulate the floor with thick polystyrene (as it did not have one !)...but decided to leave the roof as thought torch kiln oxycon light  etc would proberbly provide enough heat ....but i have a brick shed not a wooden one which possibly makes a difference ??
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: GoodMonkey on August 13, 2009, 10:17:14 PM
Woohoo Dawn - you go girl.   
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Helen G on August 13, 2009, 11:14:45 PM
 mine is not insulated and I was making beads with snow outside. My feet got a bit chilly but Cody socks sorted that out. Otherwise was dead cozy, heating is just an electric fan heater with a thermostat. The Walls are wooden planks about 5cm thick.
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Lloki on August 14, 2009, 08:12:11 AM
I'd definitely recommended it - mine's brick built, concrete flood and tiled roof - first winter bl**dy cold!
Whilst I was OK about a foot from the flame, everywhere else was freezing! (Also rods were very shocky - as expected, also I've read that oxycons can be a bit tempermental if it's really cold!)
So now we've insulated the roof space and installed an oil filled radiator and it makes a HUGE difference :D
If you have the opportunity, do it, you wont regret it!
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 14, 2009, 08:19:11 PM
I have ordered the insulation today and some sheets of ply to double wall the area. One firm wanted £20 to deliver 1/2 mile from store so found some elsewhere and delivery only £5 so saved some money there.
The grandchildrens toys have been sorted and they are now in there new home, so shed now empty and all spiders evicted. untill tomorrow when I have to evict  them again.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Lloki on August 15, 2009, 08:05:38 AM
QuoteThe grandchildrens toys have been sorted and they are now in there new home, so shed now empty and all spiders evicted. untill tomorrow when I have to evict  them again.

Would that be the grandchildren, toys or spiders? LOL

Seriously though, you wont regret insulating :D Good Luck
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 18, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
work space/ shed now insulated and inner skin nearly up. Ran out of board and had to order more.
Grandchildren/toys/spiders evicted for good. Grandchildren now have new toy shed. Well see how they like their new toyshed this weekend when we get invaded again.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: turnedlight on August 18, 2009, 07:35:48 PM
Great! Forgot to say, I even insulated the floor, we put down the thick cavity wall foam, and then laminate flooring on top, I'm so pleased we did too :)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Mand on August 24, 2009, 11:34:59 AM
Ooh reading with avid interest as will hopefully be insulating my shed after putting electrics in this autumn.  :)  It was soooooo cold last winter and I got really fed up with all my glass rods shocking and spitting everywhere.  ::)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Vicki on August 24, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
yes, I have bubble wrap & tarpaulin between the out layer & the inner cladding in my shed...in the winter it does start off freezing cold, but once your torch & kiln are on you'll really want to retain the heat they make  :)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Mand on August 24, 2009, 01:40:43 PM
Hello Vicki! Where've you been?  ;D
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 24, 2009, 07:54:39 PM
I used polystyrene sheets bought in 8x4 sheets for the insulation. They come in different thickness.  Very easy to fit and shape. I bought enough for walls roof and floor. But at the moment I am so frustrated waiting for more inner skin boards to come . I had the workbench wood and the workbench frame wood delivered today. I should have bought it all from same place. On top of this I have run out of MAP gas and I am waiting for OH to make me a support for hothead so I cant use my big cylinder. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRUSTRATED
EDI
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Vicki on August 24, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
Hi Mand, I've been about, it's the summer hols, no time for bead making at all though...I feel like i'm on another planet atm  ;)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Mand on August 25, 2009, 10:24:20 AM
me too ::) ;D
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Redkite on August 25, 2009, 03:02:01 PM
Hi!

I am just in the process of converting my 6x10 ft shed into a beady studio. It's a wooden shed and I've lined the walls and roof by stapling on a foil/bubblewrap liner on a roll (£13 from Wickes for 5m - I've used 4 rolls). Then in the dips between the battens, I've put in a 1 inch thick foam insulation called Recticel (£11 per 4ftx8ft sheet from Jewsons- I've used 4). Finally I've screwed 6mm mdf board on top of everything (£15 per sheet 120x240cm - I've used 7 but I have lots of offcuts!). I also laid polystyrene & foil underlay on the floor (£22.50 from Wickes for a huge pack - I've only used half of it), followed by laminate flooring from Homebase - I used 21 planks.

Obviously, I don't know how effective this will be, but hopefully will work! I've also installed blackout blinds from Ikea, which has made a huge difference to how hot it gets with the sun streaming in!!

I am suffering severe hot glass withdrawal though - can't wait to move in when the workbench arrives on Thursday. I haven't got any electricity yet, but at least the house can be cleared of all my beady stuff!
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 25, 2009, 03:11:44 PM
I am still having difficulty getting hold of my wood supplier I am still waiting for him to answer the phone. Getting more frustrated as the afternoon goes on. One more try then try someone else  Managed to contact him it wont be here untill tomorrow now arggggggggggggggggh. I think this calls for a cup of tea or two. to drown my sorrows.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Mand on August 25, 2009, 03:51:21 PM
and a biscuit to cheer you up  ;D
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 26, 2009, 08:46:22 PM
Good news furthur wood being delivered tomorrow albeit from different supplier
;D Large smile on my face now
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: firedinglass on August 27, 2009, 05:15:10 PM
I've just moved to dartmouth and have no workshop at the moment but have ordered a 13ft x 7 ft one.  Thanks to this thread i now know what to do re insulation, thank you so much ladies!   i was previously in a brick very cold stable so I'm hoping to be toasty warm this time around! :)
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on August 27, 2009, 07:10:08 PM
Wood was delivered and I now have inner walls in and insulated floor.
Very big smile at the moment. But will have even bigger smile when it is finished.
If everything turns out alright and I get really involved in bead making then I will have the shed made bigger.
Because I work with enamel and PMC as well.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Edi (Edith) on September 01, 2009, 06:37:51 PM
Sorry about this and I know I keep going on about it. But I cant wait to move in to start using MY bolt hole. It now has its electrics in its painted and we put the carpet in this afternoon. So at the moment its raining and I have to wait untill tomorrow to move in my kilns and tools and hundreds of beads. Luckily they are all in storage draws. My sister is hopefully making me some blinds for both of the windows. At the moment I feel like a child waiting for Christmas.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not. Hurrah I am in.
Post by: Edi (Edith) on September 02, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Finished moving into bolt hole this afternoon, and made my first batch of beads for a while in there. I have a new kiln Paragon SC2 and I turned it on and I made a real mess of programming it in so I turned it of and I am going to have another try tomorrow with OH who understands these things better than I do. Will I be able to anneal the beads I have done today, tomorrow. I hope so.
Edi
Title: Re: Insulate or not
Post by: Pam on September 02, 2009, 11:26:37 PM
Congratulations. Now we need pictures of the bolt hole and the beads of course.