Hi Everyone,
Wondered if anyone could help??
I have followed the thread on SB and got some of the rods but have yet to see anything even resembling pink/purple/blue! I do get a slight MOP but no colours. Could anyone offer any advice as I'm on a Hothead and have no problem with other silver glass.
Thanks
Dx
I got my batch the other day, (im on a hot head too) and have used like a whole rod but haven't got anything apart from a horrid matt dark blue colour! its well gutting! hope someone can tell us how to use it! x
Try making a base of something reddish or orange (I use transparent), a few lashes of clear then silver brown. Let it cool, then reduce a little bit, then encase. The red base make the electric blues more visible. I love silver brown.
oooow. gunna try that RIGHT NOW! thank you Annelyse ;D ;D ;D ;D fingers crossed!
Now - I've never used reds or oraanges - why am I stuck at work .............
But dont use Rubino ;D
Quote from: Trudi on July 24, 2009, 12:11:18 PM
Now - I've never used reds or oraanges - why am I stuck at work .............
what colours have worked for you as a base with SB?
Opal yellow!
Quote from: fionaess on July 24, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
But dont use Rubino ;D
In fact, it's probably a good idea to completely cover the red with clear as it might react with it just like it does with rubino.
i got a horrible light army green colour... did i reduce too much or not enough?
???I don't know!
If it is because of reduction, then it is probably too much of it, otherwise it is possibly a reaction with the red as mentioned above...or maybe it is something to do with the hot head???
I know its just as confusing for me. and so frustrating!!!
I totally encased the transparent red so it wasn't that i litterally flashed it through a reducing flame for about 20-30seconds... then encased! will take picture cuz its just afwul!!! :(
Try it over trans cobalt blue Vicki...
Vicki,
You and I have obviously angered the same Glass Gods as you have perfectly described the green colour I get.
CAN ANYONE HELP US??? Don't mean to shout but I get great results with other glass and this is twisting my melon, man!!
(thought you might appreciate the manchester vibe Vicki X)
Dx
oh yes, I very much understand your frustration Debs... I wonder if we are having problems cuz of our hotheads... I am going to try it again with the transparent cobalt blue as suggested. Will let you know what results I get with that... but I have got the same really nasty green colour every time ... I have tried clear, blue, ivory and transparent dark amber colour as a base colour. I am honestly thinking of throwing them at the wall but I'm trying to keep calm. I am having a lesson soon (about timee!) so I will be taking this frustrating glass along with me for sure!!!!!!
Vicki xxx
Quote from: fionaess on July 24, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
But dont use Rubino ;D
I've used it with rubino, and got some beautiful yrllows and creams - all whispy and mist like. Unfortunately, I sold the bead almost immediately, I'll make another tommorow and post when I can.
But in the meantime:
Make a tiny tube of rubino, let it cool, don't strike,
Spiral a stringer of RSB, melt in,
I then used a clear stringer ( vetro) and swirled.
Cool slightly.
Now strike and or reduce lightly.
Encase.
Have a go, I loved mine.
Kirsty
I don't work on a hot head so I cannot tell for sure but 20-30 seconds for reduction seems a very long time to me.
Usually, I count to 5 while reducing most glasses (at the top of the flame).
You should maybe try without reduction first because the normal hot head flame is reducing already and then work you way up from there a few seconds at a time and see what you get. Keep the same colour as a base, cobalt blue is a good one because it is not likely to react and then try other base colours once you have the reduction sorted out.
I can't get this glass to work either. Getting very frustrated. For the last week I have been using a minor torch and that hasn't made any difference. To reduce this glass is it best to increase the propane, or reduce the oxygen, or doesn't it matter?
Carolyn
I've used bases- ink blue,clear,and a bright trans blue-(040?)
But it may be the batch you have some are clear and some are brown -they couldbe at different stages of striking cycle??? (that's me guessing)
Normally I don't reduce much - but for this glass following Anouk's tips I did reduce more- but I twirl it lightly through a reduction flame a few times - this way it's getting the reduction but no heat.
I get my base- trail some SB- then heat sections and rake it up
melt flat
reduce
encase
over bright blue
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/shine-on2/Beads/196058.jpg)
over ink blue
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/shine-on2/Beads/196027.jpg)
over pale emerald
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/shine-on2/Beads/196063.jpg)
I did it! I got colour on my HH!
I used Effetre Mid Amber as a base, added the SB and swirled/ poked it around; (that's how you get the different colours), . I reduced it a bit, then cased in clear. The ones where I didn't fiddle about with the SB , it went that sort of khaki green; but the ones where I twisted and pulled it about, I got loads of swirls of different colour, including purple.
They're in the kiln now, but I leave for holiday in 6 hours, so I can't show you until I get back; but trust me, it does work!
Trudi,
I now have major bead envy ;D. They are fab!
Will try tomorrow night to see what I get.
Dx
Tina,
Thanks for the tip....I wish it wasn't so late....can't wait for tomorrow.
Dx
Quote from: Trudi on July 24, 2009, 09:36:54 PM
Normally I don't reduce much - but for this glass following Anouk's tips I did reduce more- but I twirl it lightly through a reduction flame a few times - this way it's getting the reduction but no heat.
So, how long does it need in the reduction flame? I know that is rather like asking how long is a piece of string, but are we talking a few seconds? Much longer?
Carolyn
Quote from: cwest on July 24, 2009, 09:20:56 PM
I can't get this glass to work either. Getting very frustrated. For the last week I have been using a minor torch and that hasn't made any difference. To reduce this glass is it best to increase the propane, or reduce the oxygen, or doesn't it matter?
Carolyn
Reduce the oxygen. And then reduce it shortly in the flame - about 1/2 inch after the yellow candle. Then encase in neutral flame. While you encase it, the SB strikes and develops its colours.
Ic fou try it over clear, you can learn to see the process best: Make a clear basebead, encase with SB. The SB should be worked so hot that it gets coulourless. Take out of flame and let cool a little bit. Reduce till slightly golden look. Then encase with clear. Melt the clear in cooly, not getting too hot.
And to the other question: If you are getting murky army greens, then there was too much reducing or you reduced too near to the torchhead (do you say torchhead in english?).
I also like Ornela light blue opaque as a basecolour very much!
Have fun and show us some pics!
That's great. Glad that you got there in the end!
Vicki,
Have you tried yet??
Dx
Sorry Vicki,
Forgot you're at a fair. Hope it went well.
Dx
I'm back now. Just gunna have a tidy up of all my stuff, cuz in a BIG mess after the fair!!! and then I'm gunna have another go. But from the last few times I have tried, I know that by the time I have the SB cooling down after completely heating it is this dark blue/black colour which ain't gunna do NOFIN in a reducing flame especially not go shinny AT!ALL(excuse my common-ness I get like that when I'm feeling a bit if not very frustrated!) I so want it to work for me!!! please please work Silver Brown pleeeeeeease!
You will get colour, trust me (......points to signature....)
;D
It just takes practice ;)
AARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Sorry. Now I've tried not reducing it before I encase as I'm on a HH. Other than doing a wierd dance around the room praying to the Reichenbach God of Glass I can't think of anything else to do.
I don't know why this is getting to me so much.....yes I do.....I can do it with the others and I refuse to be beaten into a sludge coloured corner!!!!
Oh well try again tonight!!!
Dx
I am on a minor and still cant get it to work, bad glass :D
:D
Yes...Bad Glass!!
Dx
I've had no luck either! I give up, I also purchased aurua and ekho and I can make them shinny like when reduced but when I encase I get that weird yellowy green horrible colour!!! I am hiding them away from me cuz they are all doing my head in and I'm fed up!!! I'm having a lesson with Sal in the next couple of week hopefully! so i'm gunna take it with me!!!!
xxx
I think I might do the same with RSB as I'm becoming obsessed!! ;D
If I have any luck at all I'll share immediately Vicki.
Dx
Reichenbach Silver Brown on trans red
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/fionaess/silverbrownred.jpg)
Reichenbach Silver Brown on opal yellow
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/fionaess/silverbrownopalyellow.jpg)
ohh looks great on the red!
Quote from: Failariel on July 29, 2009, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: Trudi on July 29, 2009, 09:06:11 PM
ohh looks great on the red!
certainly does!
can we try that tomorrow Colette? And after I finished up kate posted that you get great purples with ekho over white ........... note to self bring some ekho!
Sounds good