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Lampwork => COE 104 => Topic started by: Vicki.White on May 18, 2009, 10:14:25 PM

Title: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 18, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
Well I got my beads and beyond mag today... and was thrilled when I saw julie fountain's article (Yes your article Julie!!! :D it amazed me that I chat to you guys on here and there you are in a mag i'm reading FANTASTIC)
I have been wondering for a few week now how everyone gets that effect with the ivory cuz its stunning... anyway. I learnt how to do it in this article... but I got home and got out my silver foil and did everything the instructions said but i think ive got fake silver foil... as even when I tried for the second time in the very top of the flame so as not to burn the silver... when I pulled the stringer the silver went into black blobs on the stringer...

Am i right that it is fake... or am I doing it wrong? if it is fake... where can i get the real thing for sure/???

xxx
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Lush! on May 18, 2009, 10:19:47 PM
Hi Vicki  ;D

Thank you!   :-[


Black blobs?  I don't think I've heard of anybody having fake silver foil - fake gold, yes, but not fake silver.  I don't know if there's such a thing as "sterling" leaf is there? I suppose that would go black if there was such a thing.

Are you warming the end of the rod of ivory, and rubbing the silver onto the warmed rod firmly?

Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Mary on May 18, 2009, 10:23:50 PM
It does go grey/blackish on ivory, though if it's sterling (not fine silver) or fake it will look horrid! Try putting some of your stringer on a tester ivory bead, and heat it to let it spread. If it's right you'll get the stone effect.
Or you could test it by putting some foil on a hot non-reactive bead, out of the flame. Real fine silver will still shine on the hot glass, sterling will look black, fake will ball up like plastic.
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Trudi on May 18, 2009, 10:26:28 PM
I wonder if you're heating it enough before you're pulling the stringer?
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Redhotsal on May 19, 2009, 12:06:42 AM
You will get a difference if you're using foil as opposed to leaf. Foil is much thicker and you can very easily saturate the ivory with too much silver. Bet that's what it is.
If you have "fake" or sterling foil you will find that your stringer is very lumpy. But if it's smooth and mostly black (or dark olive/khaki colour) then you've swamped it with too much foil.
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 12:10:56 AM
Nope not smooth at all just in blobs... i've just taken some photos... just uploading them to photobucket now... be 2 secs
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Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu164/vickiwhte/P5190183.jpg)
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu164/vickiwhte/P5190180.jpg)
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Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 12:16:09 AM
now it has cooled down... it doesn't look black... well you can see what it looks like...
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Black Heart Beads on May 19, 2009, 12:17:19 AM
Is that ivory? it looks white.
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 12:22:25 AM
yup, dark ivory...
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: hollergrafik on May 19, 2009, 12:33:57 AM
doesnt look cram enough for DI
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 12:45:17 AM
 :-\ i ordered it from tuffnells. I bought a batch of dark and a batch of normal... it is def dark ivory........ :'( :-\ :-[ ???
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: hollergrafik on May 19, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
is it rough when u feel the rod?
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
yeah, bobbly...do you think it isn't dark ivory????
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: xtweeksx on May 19, 2009, 01:45:07 AM
I reckon its either light ivory or if it really is dark ivory you haven't burnished and melted it in enough... I'm going for the first one tho! Your silver looks same as mine... so don't think its that.

Check rod as HG suggested. If you get your light/dark ivory together you can see the difference visually. LI is smooth and looks totally different to DI...

Jen x
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Vicki.White on May 19, 2009, 01:57:32 AM
 :-\ yeah they are very different. i pretty sure that its dark ivory... its definatly the DI that I got sent anyway...
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Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: xtweeksx on May 19, 2009, 02:07:44 AM
Can you take a pic of the rod?
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Redhotsal on May 19, 2009, 08:00:12 AM
Hmmm....looks like sterling silver. Where did you get it from?
Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Lush! on May 19, 2009, 08:03:27 AM
Hmm, yuck!

I think its the silver too - PM me your address Vicki and I'll send you a sheet of my silver leaf so you can have another go and see the difference.

Title: Re: Silvered Ivory Stringers... Problem
Post by: Trudi on May 19, 2009, 08:07:45 AM
I use light ivory when I make SIS - so it shouldn't really make a difference. Could well be the silver!